Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

Quote: rxwine

OG.

Just as you, (most likely) don’t start out every argument with a nod to flat earthers belief because you moved beyond their skepticism about the shape of Earth, perhaps many scientists see no point in giving a further nod to doubt of climate skeptics every time they add data in this area. Researchers of glacier effects would likely already concluded that effects of glaciers is connected to climate warming without nodding to climate skeptics every time.

he wrote ""Climate change is increasingly predisposing polar regions to large landslides

I would *not* ask him to write, "Polar regions are now experiencing large landslides, who knows why?" ... *IF* he knows that this is increasing as he says.

I would expect something like "Climate change *may be* increasingly predisposing polar regions to large landslides, the data going back X years showing an increase in occurrence" . Of course that would look silly if X = 15 or something. If X=60 then I'd like him to say so.

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Edited until just right. Three bears.

3 bears?

Quote: odiousgambit

he wrote ""Climate change is increasingly predisposing polar regions to large landslides

I would *not* ask him to write, "Polar regions are now experiencing large landslides, who knows why?" ... *IF* he knows that this is increasing as he says.

I would expect something like "Climate change *may be* increasingly predisposing polar regions to large landslides, the data going back X years showing an increase in occurrence" . Of course that would look silly if X = 15 or something. If X=60 then I'd like him to say so.

3 bears?

Yeah, I know what you’re saying. (I think, hah ha). I’m saying among scientist who may specialize in glaciers, climate change warming is something they don’t feel is even questionable. Is there sub-specialty of glacier study? I don’t know.

Three bears “This bed is too hard. This bed is too soft. This bed just right.”

Quote: AZDuffman

I do get my information from scientists. I just use it to think for myself instead of just believing it all. See, we do not have accurate records from 150 years ago much less 12,000. And on a 4.5 billion year old planet 12,000 years is nothing. Like saying how the DJIA is doing over its 120 years based on 1 day of trading results.

It is all a scam.

Then private plane behavior really doesn’t matter does it?

I’m impressed that you educated yourself on climate science, read the research as it was published over one last decades, critiqued and debated it with knowledgeable climate scholars such as yourself. You reviewed the climate temperature record and the methods of indirect measurement and correlation. You have concluded throughout the process that it’s just a scam. That’s a very commendable undertaking. I haven’t had time for that level of research. Some people would have just listened to Rush Limbaugh’s take in the 90s and vowed to never depart from it no matter what.

Quote: JimRockford

Then private plane behavior really doesn’t matter does it?

I’m impressed that you educated yourself on climate science, read the research as it was published over one last decades, critiqued and debated it with knowledgeable climate scholars such as yourself. You reviewed the climate temperature record and the methods of indirect measurement and correlation. You have concluded throughout the process that it’s just a scam. That’s a very commendable undertaking. I haven’t had time for that level of research. Some people would have just listened to Rush Limbaugh’s take in the 90s and vowed to never depart from it no matter what.

The private planes do matter. Like the 1980s televangelists who said money was evil so send it to them so they could buy air conditioned doghouses. Or union leaders complaining about fat cat exec perks yet ride in limos and fly their own private jets. O a potus candidate claiming she grew up middle class but lived the good life growing up. Behavior shows things. Spewing CO2 while telling me to take the bus doesn’t wash with me.

Yes, I have read up on the issue. And educated myself in college and independently. I see so many holes in what “scientists say” that I do not believe.

Quote: AZDuffman

The private planes do matter. Like the 1980s televangelists who said money was evil so send it to them so they could buy air conditioned doghouses. Or union leaders complaining about fat cat exec perks yet ride in limos and fly their own private jets. O a potus candidate claiming she grew up middle class but lived the good life growing up. Behavior shows things. Spewing CO2 while telling me to take the bus doesn’t wash with me.

Then don’t listen to the private plane guys. They’re not the authorities anyway.

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Yes, I have read up on the issue. And educated myself in college and independently. I see so many holes in what “scientists say” that I do not believe.

I tip my cap to you sir. They can’t outsmart you.

Quote: JimRockford

Then don’t listen to the private plane guys. They’re not the authorities anyway.


I tip my cap to you sir. They can’t outsmart you.

I don’t listen to them. But sorry the believers have made them authorities and heroes.

I have never see. The Algore movie but I wonder how much of it has not come true.

Duffman doesn’t believe people who make money and don’t always do what they preach.

He believes in nothing then. What an idiot position.

Quote: rxwine

Duffman doesn’t believe people who make money and don’t always do what they preach.

He believes in nothing then. What an idiot position.

Begging for money or taking government research grants is not making money. It is taking money. Making money is providing value for value like developing real estate for example.

And those types don’t preach much if at all.

Quote: AZDuffman

Begging for money or taking government research grants is not making money. It is taking money. Making money is providing value for value like developing real estate for example.

And those types don’t preach much if at all.

No, they are receiving money for labor. Same as anyone else. It’s no less work than researching deeds is paid for.

Quote: rxwine

No, they are receiving money for labor. Same as anyone else. It’s no less work than researching deeds is paid for.

Not the same at all. They are taking government grants, which is money taken form the citizens at the point of a gun. We have no choice in them getting paid. They provide no value.

Researching deeds is paid for by either the mortgage party or gas well driller. They get direct value. They have total choice.