New high capacity airplanes

August 23rd, 2014 at 8:22:13 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Pacomartin
I suppose it might be interesting to go the other way (extra 7:20 hours), but you would have time to take a taxi from the airport and see the city.

$1,318 r/t
Total time: 22hr 5min No change of planes.
1:15 PM-6:10 PM (15hr 55min) Chicago, IL - Hong Kong Time between flights: 2hr 15min
8:25 PM-12:20 AM ( 3hr 55min) Hong Kong - Singapore

$1,249 r/t
Total time: 29hr 25min with One change of plane
8:35 PM-7:10 PM (12hr 35min) O'Hare Airport (ORD)- Dubai International Airport (DXB) Time between flights: 7hr 55min
3:05 AM-3:00 PM (7hr 55min) Dubai International Airport (DXB) -Changi airport (SIN)


I take just about everybody over the pacific USA to Asia, With UA, depart day 1, get in day 2 at night, ready to work day 3 morning.
If UA sold out bus class, Then ORD-NRT-HKG-SIN UA
With EK, depart day 1 evening, change plane day 2 huge layover arrive day 3 afternoon, wont really get work done till day 4 morning.
My guys want to get in, get the work done and get out as soon as possible.
If I do sell coach(a few clients are real cheap) my clients may not qualify for above fares due to not meeting minimum stay rule and no advance purchase.
I mostly sell business class on these routes. Depending on type of UA business class fare, some corp contracts give 30 per cent off.
Also Frequent flier miles are huge to business travelers. Miles and status means upgrades to 1st on their domestic business trips and business to 1st on International.
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August 23rd, 2014 at 10:16:07 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: terapined
I take just about everybody over the pacific USA to Asia, With UA, depart day 1, get in day 2 at night, ready to work day 3 morning.


Get into the airport at midnight after 22 hours from chicago (+ time it takes you to get from chicago), get to a hotel, sleep and shower and be at work in the morning. You have to get a good nights rest on the plane. You can't do that easily in coach.


We used to have special government fares. You couldn't choose an airline, or a time you wanted to leave. You also can't fly foreign carriers. San Diego to
$470 Tokyo - American
$1130 Singapore -American
$507 Hong Kong -Delta
$579 London - United
September 1st, 2014 at 8:59:17 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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I work in the industry.
The 3 busiest routes I see with my own eyes where business class is almost always sold out and airlines are making a healthy profit.
EWR-BOM everybody is actually going to Pune but PNQ not convenient, you have to connect in Europe FRA and arrive 3am if departing out of USA.
BOM only 77 miles from the real destination, Pune. Also FRA-PNQ not daily.
ORD-PVG
ORD-PEK



Net Income for US Carriers hit their highest in 2013 since 2006. They cut costs to the point that a $4 billion increase in revenue (up to $200 billion) produced a $12 billion increase in net revenue.

The BTS figures show health in all regions of flight, domestic, atlantic, pacific, Latin America, and international


Year Revenue Income
2000 $130.2 +$2.5
2001 $115.2 -$8.3
2002 $107.1 -$11.4
2003 $117.8 -$1.7
2004 $134.7 -$9.1
2005 $151.5 -$27.2
2006 $165.5 +$18.2
2007 $174.7 +$7.7
2008 $186.1 -$23.7
2009 $155.1 -$2.5
2010 $174.7 +$3.7
2011 $193.0 +$1.4
2012 $196.1 +$0.4
2013 $200.2 +$12.7

Operating Revenue (In Thousands of Dollars $000) All U.S. Carriers - All regions
Net Income (In Thousands of Dollars $000) All U.S. Carriers - All regions
SOURCE: Bureau of Transportation Statistics F41 Schedule P12 data.
September 1st, 2014 at 9:41:28 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Pacomartin
Net Income for US Carriers hit their highest in 2013 since 2006. They cut costs to the point that a $4 billion increase in revenue (up to $200 billion) produced a $12 billion increase in net revenue.

The BTS figures show health in all regions of flight, domestic, atlantic, pacific, Latin America, and international


Year Revenue Income
2000 $130.2 +$2.5
2001 $115.2 -$8.3
2002 $107.1 -$11.4
2003 $117.8 -$1.7
2004 $134.7 -$9.1
2005 $151.5 -$27.2
2006 $165.5 +$18.2
2007 $174.7 +$7.7
2008 $186.1 -$23.7
2009 $155.1 -$2.5
2010 $174.7 +$3.7
2011 $193.0 +$1.4
2012 $196.1 +$0.4
2013 $200.2 +$12.7

Operating Revenue (In Thousands of Dollars $000) All U.S. Carriers - All regions
Net Income (In Thousands of Dollars $000) All U.S. Carriers - All regions
SOURCE: Bureau of Transportation Statistics F41 Schedule P12 data.


I work in business travel, We are busy, we are expanding, we are hiring :-)
My most booked international destinations for US based clients
India its mostly BOM or PNQ. A few to MAA, DEL, IDR
UK mostly LHR but some to MAN and MME
Europe - mostly AMS FRA MUC BRU some MXP LIN ZRH KRK and OTP
Mexico - SLP, some MTY GDL HMO
South America - mostly GRU with some BOG LIM SCL and CWB
China- mostly PVG, PEK and HKG with some SZX, WUH, CKG XIA
Asia - ICN, TPE, NRT and SIN.
Australia - mostly MEL with some SYD, ADL, BNE
Africa - mostly JNB with some ACC
Middle East- mostly DXB with some TLV
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September 1st, 2014 at 10:05:47 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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My most booked international destinations for US based clients
UK mostly LHR but some to MAN and MME


MME seems like such a tiny airport. Do they have facilities for car rental? Why there when you have two much larger airports within 50 miles?

Newcastle 4,420,839 AP
Leeds Bradford 3,318,358 AP
Durham Tees Valley 161,092 AP
September 1st, 2014 at 10:51:43 AM permalink
terapined
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MME seems like such a tiny airport. Do they have facilities for car rental? Why there when you have two much larger airports within 50 miles?

Newcastle 4,420,839 AP
Leeds Bradford 3,318,358 AP
Durham Tees Valley 161,092 AP


MME is tiny but I have clients that have a ton of business in that area. Its a pain to get to. I generally have to route clients from US through AMS to get there.

I dont think I have ever booked Leeds/Bradford, whats the code?
I book NCL rarely, All the clients prefer MME

For safety, I dont recommend car rental for countries where they drive the other side of the road.
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September 1st, 2014 at 11:22:07 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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MME is tiny but I have clients that have a ton of business in that area. Its a pain to get to. I generally have to route clients from US through AMS to get there.

I dont think I have ever booked Leeds/Bradford, whats the code?
I book NCL rarely, All the clients prefer MME

For safety, I dont recommend car rental for countries where they drive the other side of the road.


About 60% of the traffic at MME is coming or leaving from Amsterdam, and the other 40% is to domestic destinations like Aberdeen. I wouldn't think there would be much public transit near there, so you would end up with car rental or taxis.

Automatic car rental is outrageous in the UK. Manual shift is made difficult because you are shifting with the wrong hand, sitting on the wrong side of the car, driving on the wrong side of the road (particularly jarring in traffic circles), and since you usually fly at night you have no sleep. I prefer the train as well, but I've always flown into London and traveled by train to smaller cities.

Leeds Bradford Arpt, Leeds, GB (LBA) is only 43 air miles from Manchester Intl, Manchester, GB (MAN), so I imagine you would default to Manchester.
September 1st, 2014 at 12:41:28 PM permalink
terapined
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About 60% of the traffic at MME is coming or leaving from Amsterdam, and the other 40% is to domestic destinations like Aberdeen. I wouldn't think there would be much public transit near there, so you would end up with car rental or taxis.

Automatic car rental is outrageous in the UK. Manual shift is made difficult because you are shifting with the wrong hand, sitting on the wrong side of the car, driving on the wrong side of the road (particularly jarring in traffic circles), and since you usually fly at night you have no sleep. I prefer the train as well, but I've always flown into London and traveled by train to smaller cities.

Leeds Bradford Arpt, Leeds, GB (LBA) is only 43 air miles from Manchester Intl, Manchester, GB (MAN), so I imagine you would default to Manchester.


I don't think I have ever booked LBA ever. I have most codes memorized, that one I would have to look up :-)

Most unusual destinations I've booked this year.
Isles of Scilly
Didn't even know these islands existed till a few months ago.
Don't know how they got there, just got them hotels.
Another unusual one, SCC Deadhorse Alaska. You book once, you never forget the name. Of course will probably have to look up the airport code again :-)
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September 2nd, 2014 at 2:13:45 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Didn't even know these islands existed till a few months ago.


The isles of Scilly were the location of one of the most significant events in the modern world.

The Scilly naval disaster of 1707 refers the events of 22 October 1707 that led to the sinking of a British naval fleet off the Isles of Scilly. With four large ships and more than 1,400 sailors lost in stormy weather, it was one of the worst maritime disasters in the history of the British Isles. It was later determined that the main cause of the disaster was the navigators' inability to accurately calculate their positions.

While the loss of 1,400 men over the course of human history doesn't seem like it should be significant, it led to the Longitude Act in 1714, which established the Board of Longitude and offered a large money prize for anyone who could find a method of determining longitude accurately at sea. The development of the marine chronometer which was created to win this prize was of massive impact on world military power. The British Navy could safely navigate into open water and avoid the ambushes near land, which was pivotal in leading the kingdom into world domination.



September 2nd, 2014 at 4:34:43 AM permalink
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Ah, we have different views of history.

Deadhorse Pass was the route into gold country and woe betide the man who stepped out of line to rest and thought he could just edge back into line when he felt like it.

Longitude prize? Much talk... long unawarded. The real man who deserved that prize was the Officer who summarily hanged a seaman for mutiny for "engaging himself in the navigation of the vessel by suggesting the ship was nearing a particular reef". Just as hands were dismissed from Punishment Stations, the ship crashed onto the reef.

Sailing from known danger spot to known danger spot was better than sailing off into the unknown.

But even with GPS ... well one California family dialed in the position of the GPS and found that was the position of the middle of the reef, a calm lagoon. The surrounding reefs were five miles away so the GPS steered the ship into the reef in the hopes they would reach a calm lagoon. They didn't make it. Lost standing rigging and about half his leg.