Upcoming Presidential Debate

October 6th, 2024 at 6:54:16 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: terapined
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/desantis-threatens-tv-station-abortion-advert-b2624767.html
Chilling
Desantis wants the state govt to control TV advertisements


Big Tits DeSantis is still out there?

Coulda fooled me.
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October 6th, 2024 at 7:12:49 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: ams288
Big Tits DeSantis is still out there?

Coulda fooled me.

We could have a million homeless if Pinnelas county takes a direct hit
On top of that
Desantis made being homeless illegal
https://www.newsweek.com/floridas-strict-homeless-law-goes-effect-1962332
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October 6th, 2024 at 10:27:38 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: terapined
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/desantis-threatens-tv-station-abortion-advert-b2624767.html
Chilling
Desantis wants the state govt to control TV advertisements


The station needs to tell Desantis and the Fl Dept of Health to eff off and dare them to try and get an injunction.
October 7th, 2024 at 2:47:22 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: DRich
I don;t think he was pro-abortion in 1999. he was probably pro-choice. I would have remembered if he was espousing abort all babies, that is my platform.
I don't like using the term 'pro-choice' as that came about due to the decision of pro-abortion people back in 60s or 70s to change the terminology. If they hadn't actually succeeded in getting the media to use 'pro-choice' for their side, while still using 'anti-abortion' for the other side, I might feel differently. I distinctly remember this going on. Of course the idea is if you include the word 'abortion' in your commentary, people recoil from that, even if it has 'anti' in front of it, and it affects opinion.

You do know Orwell elaborated on all this.

Finally the media reluctantly used 'pro-Life' after a lot of finger-pointing as to bias. Clearly there are problems with both of these terms. Orwellian problems. However, I concede that to go back to the original terminology can cause confusion ... though I suspect the main problem is buying into the idea that 'pro-choice' must be used or you're a completely awful person
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October 7th, 2024 at 5:14:11 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
I don't like using the term 'pro-choice' as that came about due to the decision of pro-abortion people back in 60s or 70s to change the terminology. If they hadn't actually succeeded in getting the media to use 'pro-choice' for their side, while still using 'anti-abortion' for the other side, I might feel differently. I distinctly remember this going on. Of course the idea is if you include the word 'abortion' in your commentary, people recoil from that, even if it has 'anti' in front of it, and it affects opinion.

You do know Orwell elaborated on all this.

Finally the media reluctantly used 'pro-Life' after a lot of finger-pointing as to bias. Clearly there are problems with both of these terms. Orwellian problems. However, I concede that to go back to the original terminology can cause confusion ... though I suspect the main problem is buying into the idea that 'pro-choice' must be used or you're a completely awful person


Should I go on and on about how screwed-up terms are used in politics to redefine something negatively or positively by ALL political sides? Nah, waste of time.

Can't remember the last "pro-lifer" who used the term "fetus." I think I know the reason why,
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October 7th, 2024 at 6:13:30 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: odiousgambit
I don't like using the term 'pro-choice' as that came about due to the decision of pro-abortion people back in 60s or 70s to change the terminology. If they hadn't actually succeeded in getting the media to use 'pro-choice' for their side, while still using 'anti-abortion' for the other side, I might feel differently. I distinctly remember this going on. Of course the idea is if you include the word 'abortion' in your commentary, people recoil from that, even if it has 'anti' in front of it, and it affects opinion.

You do know Orwell elaborated on all this.

Finally the media reluctantly used 'pro-Life' after a lot of finger-pointing as to bias. Clearly there are problems with both of these terms. Orwellian problems. However, I concede that to go back to the original terminology can cause confusion ... though I suspect the main problem is buying into the idea that 'pro-choice' must be used or you're a completely awful person


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October 7th, 2024 at 9:20:56 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Should I go on and on about how screwed-up terms are used in politics to redefine something negatively or positively by ALL political sides? Nah, waste of time.

Can't remember the last "pro-lifer" who used the term "fetus." I think I know the reason why,


Well. Does an expecting mother get a baby shower or a fetus shower?
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October 7th, 2024 at 9:26:44 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: AZDuffman
Well. Does an expecting mother get a baby shower or a fetus shower?


Fetus shower sounds dirty.

Like something Donny would do with Russian whores.
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October 7th, 2024 at 9:31:44 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
Well. Does an expecting mother get a baby shower or a fetus shower?


You mean gifts only useful after the birth? Any of these common gifts useful for a fetus?

Diapers and wipes
Baby clothes (onesies, sleepers, etc.)
Baby blankets and swaddles
Bottles and feeding supplies
Baby toys and rattles
Baby books
Baby bath essentials (towels, washcloths, baby shampoo)
Diaper bag
Baby monitor
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October 7th, 2024 at 10:15:34 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
You mean gifts only useful after the birth? Any of these common gifts useful for a fetus?

Diapers and wipes
Baby clothes (onesies, sleepers, etc.)
Baby blankets and swaddles
Bottles and feeding supplies
Baby toys and rattles
Baby books
Baby bath essentials (towels, washcloths, baby shampoo)
Diaper bag
Baby monitor


Meaning they call it a baby when they plan to have it but a fetus when they plan to kill it. Word sanitation.
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