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Quote: odiousgambit

I'm not going to try to explain it again to our resident Goebbels Jr.

It's extremely disturbing to hear a falsehood repeated from people who by now should know better ... because it shows they actually *like* to imitate Goebbels

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A weak post.

I know it’s hard defending the indefensible. Maybe after Nov. 5th you won’t have to anymore.

Quote: odiousgambit

I'm not going to try to explain it again to our resident Goebbels Jr.

It's extremely disturbing to hear a falsehood repeated from people who by now should know better ... because it shows they actually *like* to imitate Goebbels

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Turnaround is fair play I suppose. I don't remember anyone here on the right agreeing that there might have been BLM protestors not actually burning, pillaging and rioting.

Quote: GenoDRPh

(1) Were the moderators biased against Trump, or biased against his egregious lies? I dare anyone who thinks they were biased against Trump to defend as factually correct "they're eating dogs" and "“post-birth abortions" and "execution after birth, it’s execution, no longer abortion."

I am completely okay with lies being fact checked, and egregious lies being stopped in their tracks. We should all be biased against lies.

(2) Agreed.

Seriously, did you watch the debate? I did. If you actually believe the moderators didn’t show a bias against Trump I can’t help you. I’ll let you find the hundreds of op-Ed’s/articles/blogs across all media that will agree.
I’m not saying Trump doesn’t lie. He does.

I just would have liked after EACH time Harris said she was going to do X, why wasn’t X done under the Biden/Harris administration? How about this question,…. Why are you lying to the American people about these things you KNOW there is no way you can do?

Quote: SOOPOO

Seriously, did you watch the debate? I did. If you actually believe the moderators didn’t show a bias against Trump I can’t help you. I’ll let you find the hundreds of op-Ed’s/articles/blogs across all media that will agree.
I’m not saying Trump doesn’t lie. He does.

I just would have liked after EACH time Harris said she was going to do X, why wasn’t X done under the Biden/Harris administration? How about this question,…. Why are you lying to the American people about these things you KNOW there is no way you can do?

You are forgetting that she grew up in a middle class family.....

lol

Quote: AZDuffman

You are forgetting that she grew up in a middle class family.....

lol

Kamala talks about her middle class upbringing a lot.

Donny talks about Hannibal Lecter being a real person who died even more.

This is why righties like Duffman absolutely refuse to talk about Donny anymore. They will literally talk about anything else except him.

Quote: odiousgambit

I'm not going to try to explain it again to our resident Goebbels Jr.

It's extremely disturbing to hear a falsehood repeated from people who by now should know better ... because it shows they actually *like* to imitate Goebbels

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The party of a politician who lied on Day 1 of his Presidency-remember "alternative facts", anyone-saying other people like to imitate Goebbels? Puh-leeze. As they say in certain parts of the country, Dieser hund jagt nicht.

Quote: SOOPOO

Seriously, did you watch the debate? I did. If you actually believe the moderators didn’t show a bias against Trump I can’t help you. I’ll let you find the hundreds of op-Ed’s/articles/blogs across all media that will agree.
I’m not saying Trump doesn’t lie. He does.

I just would have liked after EACH time Harris said she was going to do X, why wasn’t X done under the Biden/Harris administration? How about this question,…. Why are you lying to the American people about these things you KNOW there is no way you can do?

"I’m not saying Trump doesn’t lie. He does."

Then the moderator's duty to accept unchallenged what a candidate says stops at "He does [lie]". In no world should a debate moderator accept unchallenged factual lies so easily fact-checked and so unbelievable.

How are political and policy goals of a potential Harris-Walz administration "lies"?

You aren't equating her policy failures as a result of her (a) not being a sitting President and (b) having a divided Congress to Donny's egregious lies, are you? You aren't equating her lies to Donny's, are you? Tell me what whoppers she told that are equivalent as "they're eating dogs" or "after birth abortion".

Find me an OBJECTIVE article, that OBJECTIVELY fact checked the debate that has Kamala saying the equivalent as "they're eating dogs."

You don't get to complain about supposed bias against Donny, and at the same time ask us to accept he's a liar. Donny's own lying statements aren't worthy of being respected. You don't get to complain about bias when you acknowledge he comes into this with unclean hands. And I am completely okay with debate moderators calling out factually incorrect lies. We should always strive to put truth over lies, and never treat the two as equal.

I dare anyone who thinks they were biased against Trump to defend as factually correct "they're eating dogs" and "“post-birth abortions" and "execution after birth, it’s execution, no longer abortion." Any takers?

Because when a candidate says ‘I will’ when there is a zero percent chance of it happening I think that should be fact checked. It’s frankly worse than an imbecilic lie like ‘they will eat your dogs’. Lying to the American public about what you will do is worse than the pantheon of Trump’s stupid lies. I’m saying Harris is a liar as well. Just none of the moderators seemed interested. Because of THEIR BIAS.

But more as a concept, I don’t want moderators fact checking DURING a debate. Each candidate gets to rebut their opponent. That’s how I think it should work.

The moderators, presumably as journalists, can write/podcast/blog all they want AFTER the debate about what they perceive Trump’s lies to be. Harris can quote Trump and put it in her ads.

The American people have seen both candidates‘lies. In November they will decide whose are worse.

Quote: SOOPOO

Because when a candidate says ‘I will’ when there is a zero percent chance of it happening I think that should be fact checked.

You can predict the future? Political goals, said on the stump, aren't lies
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It’s frankly worse than an imbecilic lie like ‘they will eat your dogs’. Lying to the American public about what you will do is worse than the pantheon of Trump’s stupid lies.

What world do you live in where political stump speeches are WORSE than demonizing and dehumanizing an entire racial or national origin group?

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I’m saying Harris is a liar as well. Just none of the moderators seemed interested. Because of THEIR BIAS.

Donny's lies earned biased against them. There's no comparison between what Harris said in the debate compared to what Donny said. And I DARE you to show Kamala's lies that compare to Donny's. I've asked before, but so far nobody's been able to show the goods.

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But more as a concept, I don’t want moderators fact checking DURING a debate. Each candidate gets to rebut their opponent. That’s how I think it should work.

I;m completely okay with moderators, when armed with objective facts, being arbiters of lies

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The moderators, presumably as journalists, can write/podcast/blog all they want AFTER the debate about what they perceive Trump’s lies to be. Harris can quote Trump and put it in her ads.

After is too late. I want lies stopped dead in their tracks, whenever possible.

Quote: GenoDRPh

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What world do you live in where political stump speeches are WORSE than demonizing and dehumanizing an entire racial or national origin group?

Who is demonizing and dehumanizing anyone? I do not see that. Not since I was told I was a bitter clinger or a deplorable anyhow.