Upcoming Presidential Debate

September 24th, 2024 at 4:52:00 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: AZDuffman
So, like, you are saying why attend when the moderator is going to be biased against her??


Dolan isn't a moderator, pledged to fidelity to facts. He is a host in a public gathering, pledged to treat his guests graciously and respectfully. He didn't do that, so screw him and the Al Smith dinner in an election year.
September 24th, 2024 at 5:08:26 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
So, like, you are saying why attend when the moderator is going to be biased against her??


Trump could just ask for the rules to include an equal amount of fact checking. I don't know why he doesn't. It's an easy fix. And he scores a point in his favor if they refuse.

People counted how many times he was fact checked, so it is obviously an easy thing to ask for.
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September 24th, 2024 at 6:26:17 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: rxwine
Trump could just ask for the rules to include an equal amount of fact checking. I don't know why he doesn't. It's an easy fix. And he scores a point in his favor if they refuse.

People counted how many times he was fact checked, so it is obviously an easy thing to ask for.


won't work

they should have fact checked Kamala when she said Trump said neo-Nazis were fine people, many point out as an example. But all the Lefty moderators would have done is confirm the statement as true. They might as well have Ams on the panel, who says you can't tell him any different.

the ny post lists them, and including the above it's 5 times they should have checked her

Kamala claim: “As of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world, the first time this century.”

Kamala claim: “What you’re going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again.”

Kamala claim: “Let’s remember, this is the same individual who took out a full-page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five young black and Latino boys who were innocent, the Central Park Five. Took out a full-page ad calling for their execution.”

Kamala claim: “Nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion. That is not happening.”

[I am not including: "Kamala claim: “I have not banned fracking as vice president of the United States, and in fact, I was the tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act, which opened new leases for fracking.” which need clarification as to her statements as a whole on the matter, but ... " ]

https://nypost.com/2024/09/11/opinion/heres-the-fact-check-that-abc-didnt-give-kamala-harris/
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September 24th, 2024 at 6:28:20 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: rxwine
Trump could just ask for the rules to include an equal amount of fact checking. I don't know why he doesn't. It's an easy fix. And he scores a point in his favor if they refuse.

People counted how many times he was fact checked, so it is obviously an easy thing to ask for.


It's tough to fact check a candidate who doesn't tell egregious lies. Donny told at least 2 egregious, spurious, blatant, knowingly false lies. Equal fact check assumes mandates lie equally. These two don't.
September 24th, 2024 at 6:34:10 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
won't work


Sure it will. Once you fact check Trump, you can't fact check him again until you fact check Harris.
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September 24th, 2024 at 6:40:27 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: GenoDRPh
It's tough to fact check a candidate who doesn't tell egregious lies. Donny told at least 2 egregious, spurious, blatant, knowingly false lies. Equal fact check assumes mandates lie equally. These two don't.


I don't see a problem having a panel of fact checkers working behind the scenes sending fact check verifications to the mods on the screen monitor in front of them. All the political experts are watching these things even if nobody else is.

Previously, I've suggested electric shocks for lies. No one has jumped at that idea!
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September 24th, 2024 at 6:40:58 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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The fact that Kamala is begging for another debate, despite Trump already did 2, shows she sees she is not in as strong a position she thinks she is in. She is losing the working class vote with here out-of-the mainstream positions. She cannot say what she is in favor of because she will lose even more.
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September 24th, 2024 at 6:42:41 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: rxwine
Sure it will. Once you fact check Trump, you can't fact check him again until you fact check Harris.


And if Kamala doesn't tell a lie before Donny tells his second?
September 24th, 2024 at 6:43:40 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
The fact that Kamala is begging for another debate, despite Trump already did 2, shows she sees she is not in as strong a position she thinks she is in. She is losing the working class vote with here out-of-the mainstream positions. She cannot say what she is in favor of because she will lose even more.


I'd bet 10k he'd be jumping to do another debate with Biden! And not making excuses.
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September 24th, 2024 at 6:44:12 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: GenoDRPh
And if Kamala doesn't tell a lie before Donny tells his second?


Sucks for Trump.
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