Trump shot at Rally.

July 24th, 2024 at 11:15:15 AM permalink
rxwine
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Exactly one of the problems with DEI !! If you hire *some* people because they checked the boxes, then the women [in this case] who would have gotten the job anyway are assumed to be not qualified.

I'd believe the woman we saw right next to Trump, who seemed to be well trained and know what she was to do, maybe was qualified to get the job. How many people assume she is not qualified because of the DEI priority?


There’s another possibility. While you’d probably not want to be a brain surgeon in training’s first surgery, he has to do one eventually. You put someone in with experienced people, but you have to put them in eventually. The person who is currently President is likely going to get the A team, Then the Vice. Then the nominee. And so forth. I assume.

But I still don’t know that she is actually doing something she’s going to be penalized for.
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July 24th, 2024 at 11:19:22 AM permalink
rxwine
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I harken back to this quote.

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Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones.[1]
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July 24th, 2024 at 12:07:48 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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But I still don’t know that she is actually doing something she’s going to be penalized for.


Other than being unable to holster her weapon under stress, she didn't do anything wrong. At worst, she needs more time practicing her quick draw and holstering under stress. There is no indication she used improper weapon discipline. That being said:

Alligators have extremely strong muscles used to close its mouth around prey: almost 3,000 psi. But the muscles to open its mouth are relatively weak, so alligators can't open their mouths as quickly compared to closing their mouths. I guess, to an alligator, closing it's mouth quickly and with force is more important than opening it's mouth.

I would argue, to a LEO, being able to unholster your weapon quickly is less important than being able to holster your weapon as quick.
July 24th, 2024 at 12:13:22 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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It's not about the other agents, it's about the particular agent.


And neither you nor anyone else can identify a single thing she did wrong or incompetently, compared to other agents, except for being unable to holster her weapon under stress-a minor thing.

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Again, I was interested in why it's hard to find. Makes DEI look bad?


You think DEI is censoring photos and videos off the internet now?
July 24th, 2024 at 12:41:26 PM permalink
rxwine
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Something just occurred to me about that Secret Service Director (now former) non-answers, seeming to know little, or saying everything was under investigation.

I bet she consulted a lawyer. Or had a lawyer friend. You know what they tell you to do if you're under oath and no lawyer and you're in trouble. It would have been unseemly to show up with a lawyer, so she did the next best thing. She probably knew she was getting fired anyway. I don't know if there is liability for the civilians who were shot, but I could see definitely worrying about that.
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July 24th, 2024 at 1:09:14 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: rxwine
Something just occurred to me about that Secret Service Director (now former) non-answers, seeming to know little, or saying everything was under investigation.

I bet she consulted a lawyer. Or had a lawyer friend. You know what they tell you to do if you're under oath and no lawyer and you're in trouble. It would have been unseemly to show up with a lawyer, so she did the next best thing. She probably knew she was getting fired anyway. I don't know if there is liability for the civilians who were shot, but I could see definitely worrying about that.


IDK what duty she owed to the civilians present. Indeed, the Supreme Court has ruled more than once that a LEO has no duty to protect a person from harm, absent a special relationship.

Could be it was early in the investigation and she didn't want to misspeak. Could also be she was using non-answering answers. Or could be she was a friggin' idiot.
July 24th, 2024 at 1:31:23 PM permalink
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You think DEI is censoring photos and videos off the internet now?
Much censorship goes on, you have to know that. Try to find a photo of the shooter that isn't blurred out for his head. Yes, I know why they do it and it isn't nefarious. Just an example
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July 24th, 2024 at 1:31:54 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: odiousgambit
Exactly one of the problems with DEI !! If you hire *some* people because they checked the boxes, then the women [in this case] who would have gotten the job anyway are assumed to be not qualified.


Very well put.
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July 24th, 2024 at 3:21:00 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: odiousgambit
Exactly one of the problems with DEI !! If you hire *some* people because they checked the boxes, then the women [in this case] who would have gotten the job anyway are assumed to be not qualified.


Very well put.


The only people who assumed they got the job but weren't qualified are people who assume that anyone but them are the only ones who are qualified.
July 24th, 2024 at 3:52:13 PM permalink
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FBI Director Wray on Trump's injury from the assassination attempt:

“There’s some question about whether or not it’s a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear.”


It sure as hell wasn’t a bullet.
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