Israeli conflict

June 13th, 2025 at 8:55:58 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Persiana are a proud people, and if the Israelis keep reeming them up the cooter as they are currently doing, thoroughly embarrassing the current regime, something might "give."
June 14th, 2025 at 4:20:24 AM permalink
DRich
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How many coffees do you want to bet? No way is it likely that Iran’s government is toppled. It’s a small chance of course. But even the Iranians that hate their own government I’m sure hate Israel more.


I have no interest in betting as I am just speculating. I wouldn't even know how to define if the leadership is toppled. I just think between the assassinations that are happening and the general instability in the country a major leadership change will take place.
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June 14th, 2025 at 12:58:14 PM permalink
DRich
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As of todays news it sounds really bad for Iran.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diOW3vH64PU
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June 14th, 2025 at 1:27:45 PM permalink
DRich
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New report says U.S. Delta Force being prepped to take over nuclear site in ran.
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June 14th, 2025 at 7:07:34 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: DRich
New report says U.S. Delta Force being prepped to take over nuclear site in ran.


Donny may be stupid, but I doubt he's *that* stupid.
June 14th, 2025 at 7:10:16 PM permalink
DRich
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Donny may be stupid, but I doubt he's *that* stupid.


Wow, I didn't think there was anyone left that believed he couldn't get stupider/
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June 15th, 2025 at 9:25:35 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: DRich
New report says U.S. Delta Force being prepped to take over nuclear site in ran.


If the U.S. gets involved in Iran, it would be insane after Trump spending years talking about being involved in wars in the middle east that don't involve us. Of all the wars that don't involve us, this doesn't involve us the most. If Israel wants to get stupid with Iran, let them (and I am somebody who loves Israel and despises Iran.)

The counterpoint is that an invasion of Iran (which would almost certainly lead to a drawn out occupation) would be amazing for Democrats and provide a buff the next two election cycles. Iran will be a very bloody invasion and very much be a conventional war involving hundreds of thousands on both sides, and incalculable death (and who even knows how much money,) and I do not see this being very appealing to Americans.
June 15th, 2025 at 9:48:52 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
If the U.S. gets involved in Iran, it would be insane after Trump spending years talking about being involved in wars in the middle east that don't involve us. Of all the wars that don't involve us, this doesn't involve us the most. If Israel wants to get stupid with Iran, let them (and I am somebody who loves Israel and despises Iran.)

The counterpoint is that an invasion of Iran (which would almost certainly lead to a drawn out occupation) would be amazing for Democrats and provide a buff the next two election cycles. Iran will be a very bloody invasion and very much be a conventional war involving hundreds of thousands on both sides, and incalculable death (and who even knows how much money,) and I do not see this being very appealing to Americans.


Luckily no Republican has suggested attacking Iran since liberal darling John McCain suggested it. Trump is very smart and knows that the only USA military success against Iran since the 70s has been Sgt Slaughter. IOW don’t look for it to happen no matter how much left wingers want it to.
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June 15th, 2025 at 10:24:50 AM permalink
missedhervee
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By enabling Israel we participate in a proxy war against Iran, just as we have been engaging in a proxy war against Russia by assisting Ukraine.

Nothing wrong with that: better to spend money than American lives to achieve our goals.
June 15th, 2025 at 11:18:16 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: AZDuffman
Luckily no Republican has suggested attacking Iran since liberal darling John McCain suggested it. Trump is very smart and knows that the only USA military success against Iran since the 70s has been Sgt Slaughter. IOW don’t look for it to happen no matter how much left wingers want it to.


Well, there was the USS Sampson, the last US vessel to sink another vessel. So there's that success.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis