Israeli conflict

Quote: rxwine

To me, a better endgame for the Israelis would be to announce they've taken out all the obvious known Hamas targets and then are going to start with selective strikes on a lowered but unending timeline. If they take over Gaza, they're just going to have an unending dangerous babysitting job that will never likely convert the current population and produce no pro-Israeli leaders who can keep from being assassinated. Better to sit back, strike with special operations, improve defenses, than wade into something like that.

Absolutely. I think I posted this before, but in the end Israel cannot have a naval blockade on Gaza. That allows for the (ridiculous) ‘open air prison’ tropes. Before this new conflict, there were luxury hotels, upscale eateries, wealthy neighborhoods. Is Sudan an ‘open air prison’? A mostly poor country wants to blame its circumstances on anyone but its own people.

Quote: SOOPOO

Before this new conflict, there were luxury hotels, upscale eateries, wealthy neighborhoods.

In Gaza??

Hamas is the elected government in Gaza, so when its gov't "goes rogue" as they did with the initial attack the populace who elected them are deemed to be complicit and must pay the price.

I would destroy / level Gaza, and ship all the Palestinians out of Israel; send them to Iran.

Quote: missedhervee

Hamas is the elected government in Gaza, so when its gov't "goes rogue" as they did with the initial attack the populace who elected them are deemed to be complicit and must pay the price.

I would destroy / level Gaza, and ship all the Palestinians out of Israel; send them to Iran.

I’m trying to get away from the idea, that whatever the next potentialTrump administration does, we ALL deserved to be nuked. Or any similar idea. Unless someone gets 100% of the vote, I don’t want to take responsiblity for that person. Don’t want to apply it to anyone else.

Quote: rxwine

I’m trying to get away from the idea, that whatever the next potentialTrump administration does, we ALL deserved to be nuked. Or any similar idea. Unless someone gets 100% of the vote, I don’t want to take responsiblity for that person. Don’t want to apply it to anyone else.

If it does what the last Trump admin does it will mean peace.

Quote: AZDuffman

If it does what the last Trump admin does it will mean peace.

It sure wasn't peaceful at home, and there were still wars being fought abroad during his tenure.

Quote: GenoDRPh

It sure wasn't peaceful at home, and there were still wars being fought abroad during his tenure.

The USA did not get involved in a war under Trump, first time since Carter that happened and only second time since WWII.

Trump had nothing to do with violent, racist groups like BLM causing issues.

Face facts, Trump was about peace no matter how much the left said he would start a war for no reason.

the Left gets everything wrong about Trump, and believes it's necessary to lie to defeat him

Even when the truth makes Trump look bad, what they have the general public believe is all baloney. There wasn't an insurrection at the Capitol, it was a riot. Trump and Pelosi were guilty of having no foresight as to how this would unfold, and Trump should have toned it all down, possibly stopping it, and didn't. But what Trump did that was really bad was bring in separate groups of electors not certified by the states they came from, and tried to get them seated. This was the horrific thing that he can't be forgiven for, is really bad, and is barely mentioned by the Leftists who greatly prefer going on about things that didn't even happen.

Quote: odiousgambit

the Left gets everything wrong about Trump, and believes it's necessary to lie to defeat him

Even when the truth makes Trump look bad, what they have the general public believe is all baloney. There wasn't an insurrection at the Capitol, it was a riot. Trump and Pelosi were guilty of having no foresight as to how this would unfold, and Trump should have toned it all down, possibly stopping it, and didn't. But what Trump did that was really bad was bring in separate groups of electors not certified by the states they came from, and tried to get them seated. This was the horrific thing that he can't be forgiven for, is really bad, and is barely mentioned by the Leftists who greatly prefer going on about things that didn't even happen.

WTF does this nonsense have to do with Israel?