The Trump Arrest thread

Quote: kenarman

You mean like a threatening protest outside a supreme court justice's residence.

I'm all for protests.
I'm not sure what a threatening protest is.
Does that mean you are threatening to protest legally and you go ahead and do it :-)
If protestors are peaceful, they are within their constitutional rights regardless of right wing or left wing.
If protestors break the law, arrest them regardless of left or right.
If Trump or any left wing or right wing politician calls for violent protests, that is wrong and should be condemned.
Pretty common sense to me
Agree Kernaman?

Quote: kenarman

You mean like a threatening protest outside a supreme court justice's residence.

Which Democratic presidential candidate did that?

Quote: kenarman

You mean like a threatening protest outside a supreme court justice's residence.

Sure, and they were arrested as they should be. Just like as you will hopefully concede, Trump should be.

But, the element of scale is important. A random group of hecklers who nobody really cares about will be arrested with minimal influence. A person with millions of followers who will all target an individual calling for violence on an individual for not even doing anything offensive (literally routine legal duties) is absurd. Trump already demonstrated that he has the ability for mass mobilization, that makes threats far more impactful, because even if 100 people are arrested, there will be thousands more willing to attempt the same thing.

It is the web of influence problem, it is why a single Taliban Imam with massive reach can be more dangerous than thousands of militants, because he is the one who controls those militants. I am not saying Trump is a terrorist (though he is becoming increasingly close day by day seemingly), but it's the principle.

Quote: Gandler

Sure, and they were arrested as they should be. Just like as you will hopefully concede, Trump should be.

But, the element of scale is important. A random group of hecklers who nobody really cares about will be arrested with minimal influence. A person with millions of followers who will all target an individual calling for violence on an individual for not even doing anything offensive (literally routine legal duties) is absurd. Trump already demonstrated that he has the ability for mass mobilization, that makes threats far more impactful, because even if 100 people are arrested, there will be thousands more willing to attempt the same thing.

It is the web of influence problem, it is why a single Taliban Imam with massive reach can be more dangerous than thousands of militants, because he is the one who controls those militants. I am not saying Trump is a terrorist (though he is becoming increasingly close day by day seemingly), but it's the principle.

The quote is from January. Do you have anything more recent that show there was arrests?

"Biden DOJ Behind Failure to Arrest Activists Illegally Protesting at Justices’ Homes, Experts Say"

Trump is doing a rally in Waco, Tx Saturday. Coincidence?

Quote:

Antigovernment militias have made “Waco” a code word for federal overreach. Even before the fiery end of the 1993 siege at the Branch Davidians’ compound south of Dallas, where David Koresh and more than 70 of his followers died, Army veteran Timothy McVeigh visited the site. A Koresh supporter, McVeigh sold bumper stickers reading FEAR THE GOVT THAT FEARS YOUR GUNS and A MAN WITH A GUN IS A CITIZEN, A MAN WITHOUT A GUN IS A SUBJECT. Two years later, McVeigh chose the anniversary of the Waco fire to bomb the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

Conspiracist Alex Jones led a fund drive to build a chapel on the site of the compound. “No more Wacos!” he shouted. Mike Vanderboegh, cofounder of the Three Percenters militia, warned, “Waco can happen at any given time. But the outcome will be different next time.” One of the insurgents arrested after the January 6, 2021 U.S. Capitol riots anticipated a battle with police he called “Waco 2.0.”

Quote: kenarman

The quote is from January. Do you have anything more recent that show there was arrests?

One. And only because he showed up outside Justice Kavanaugh's home with a handgun and said he wanted to kill him.

'Ted Cruz And Merrick Garland Have Fiery Clash In Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing'

Quote: kenarman

The quote is from January. Do you have anything more recent that show there was arrests?

"Biden DOJ Behind Failure to Arrest Activists Illegally Protesting at Justices’ Homes, Experts Say"

ROTFL
"experts say"
Are you serious
Screw the experts, cut to the chase. How was a law broken? Who broke the law. Is it on video??????? These days if ain't on video, it's an extremely weak case and nobody will belive it.
Where's the beef and experts don't mean jack
EVIDENCE is needed like a video
Like Jan 6 evidence
Call the police
It's there jurisdiction
This is a local matter.

Quote: terapined

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Call the police
It's there jurisdiction
This is a local matter.

I am continually amazed at how little you actually understand about what is happening and even what the law is TP.

"The Supreme Court Marshal and the Supreme Court police are responsible for the security of the Court, with the U.S. Marshals Service"

Quote: kenarman

The quote is from January. Do you have anything more recent that show there was arrests?

"Biden DOJ Behind Failure to Arrest Activists Illegally Protesting at Justices’ Homes, Experts Say"

It's a false equivalency. I don't support protesting on sidewalks outside of private homes (though you have on other circumstances, so it is selective outrage). But, I think it is wrong all around. However, as long as protests stay on a public right of way, and don't impede traffic or cause a noise disturbance, it is generally regarded as legal (I find it to be in poor taste, a bad tactic, and think any group who does it swings low).

However, protesters who have made threats to the Supreme Court have been arrested (as they should).

You are really hiding the ball. Whether or not Trump threatened somebody is the issue. You can point out endless circumstances of other threats and see if people got arrested or did not. But, protests are not threats. And, if protesters do use threats I would be the first to say that they should be arrested. Not addressing something, and just pointing out perceived wrongdoing by other parties does not change the base issue.

You are essentially proving my point (assuming your claims about mass amount of people using threats and not being arrested are true), if somebody is not arrested who should be that is a failure of justice. And, right now Trump can be counted in that group of somebody who should be arrested who has not been. And, Trump is infinitely more dangerous than some wackjob on the sidewalk, because he controls thousands of wackjobs on the sidewalk.

Trump doubles down.


On his social media site he issued a warning about "potential death and destruction."

And calls the D.A. a "degenerate psychopath."






https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-warns-potential-death-destruction-charged-hush-money-probe-rcna76500