DeSantis: the real deal?

March 13th, 2023 at 8:47:32 AM permalink
ams288
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I created a thread since this is a DeSantis thread.

I don't feel comfortable showing the woke scam here unless it specifically pertains to Florida and/or DeSantis.


I blocked that thread, as I do all your threads.
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March 13th, 2023 at 8:57:57 AM permalink
terapined
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As I have said, it is not the word ‘woke’ or its application that will sink the Democrat nominee if they had to take on DeSantis, it’s the specific examples I presented.

Yawn
Desantis is taking a hard right turn. He knows he needs to go further right then Trump to grab that base insuring that he will turn off middle America which elects Presidents.
Roevember is every November now. Young voters are overwhelming pro choice and its an issue that matters to them
2022 shows red waves are history
The base is dying
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March 13th, 2023 at 10:48:06 AM permalink
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Being anti police is woke.

You talking about Tucker
You talking about Jan 6??????????????????????????????????
Theses rioters were against all the police that day

We on the left are just against individual bad cops
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March 13th, 2023 at 5:59:28 PM permalink
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We on the left are just against individual bad cops


Is this a serious comment?

You can’t possibly be that naive to think that ‘the left’ is against cops in general. When the phrase ‘defund the police’ started, you think that was just targeting individual bad cops? Puuuuleeeze!

You may be part of ‘we on the left’, but not on this issue!
March 13th, 2023 at 6:57:00 PM permalink
ams288
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*sigh*

I wish politicians on the left were more anti-police.

That’s just a rightie fever dream.
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March 13th, 2023 at 8:14:26 PM permalink
terapined
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Is this a serious comment?

You can’t possibly be that naive to think that ‘the left’ is against cops in general. When the phrase ‘defund the police’ started, you think that was just targeting individual bad cops? Puuuuleeeze!

You may be part of ‘we on the left’, but not on this issue!

What police dept was defunded???????
Has any Dem mayor demanded thier police dept no longer be funded???????
What about Dem Governors ?
How about Biden ?
You are describing extremists with no power. Why do you listen to these clowns? Because Fox does????????
There is no doubt the majority of Dems support the police. I support the police. Is there anybody here on this board demanding that the police be defunded.
Your problem is listening to extremists to prove your point. Have you asked anybody here on this board if we think the police should not be funded???????
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March 13th, 2023 at 8:28:21 PM permalink
terapined
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*sigh*

I wish politicians on the left were more anti-police.

That’s just a rightie fever dream.

I agree
Right up there with we are all Socialists
You watch too much Fox and its amazing the BS you start to belive is real
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March 14th, 2023 at 7:02:02 AM permalink
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I never said he didn’t have the right to nominate whoever he wanted to. I did say it is a perfect example of a woke policy to announce you need a certain race and gender for a position like Supreme Court Justice. And I think the majority of Americans agree with me, and DeSantis on issues like this.

Woke = using race and/or gender to disqualify someone from next Supreme Court Justice appointee

Non woke = selecting most qualified candidate regardless of race or gender.


I agree with SOOPOO on this one, but in a little bit of a different way.

Instead of making a huge production, in advance, about the fact that the nominee is going to be a black woman, just nominate a black woman and be done with it. Leave it for the Republicans to try to tear her down with, almost certainly, some of them making themselves look bad in the process.
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March 14th, 2023 at 7:10:32 AM permalink
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Instead of making a huge production, in advance, about the fact that the nominee is going to be a black woman, just nominate a black woman and be done with it. Leave it for the Republicans to try to tear her down with, almost certainly, some of them making themselves look bad in the process.

I agree
but
Is it woke to simply nominate a Black Woman to the Supreme Court ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
We all knew it was happening
What diff does it make if Biden kept silent or opened his big mouth
Same result
Is the result woke?????????????????????????????????????????????

No doubt we will have 8 or maybe only 7 justices in the future
Republicans started the absurd policy of not allowing the President to pick a justice unless he or she has a majority in the Senate
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March 14th, 2023 at 7:42:34 AM permalink
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I agree
but
Is it woke to simply nominate a Black Woman to the Supreme Court ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
We all knew it was happening
What diff does it make if Biden kept silent or opened his big mouth
Same result
Is the result woke?????????????????????????????????????????????

No doubt we will have 8 or maybe only 7 justices in the future
Republicans started the absurd policy of not allowing the President to pick a justice unless he or she has a majority in the Senate


No, of course not. To use it as a virtue signal is pretty woke. I also think it diminishes from the nominee's accomplishment when you've already stated, in advance, that you're nominating a black woman. Basically, it gives the other side a not-totally-unreasonable argument to say, "Well, I guess she was the best black woman for the job."

It's better to just nominate her if you're going to do that. Let the other side make the argument that she was only nominated due to being a black woman, then the other side can portray themselves as a bunch of racists. In the meantime, you don't have this cloud hanging over her head where someone might say, "Maybe she wasn't the BEST selection, she was just the best selection out of black women."

That's the difference. One is bad politics and the other is good politics. Biden did it the way that's bad politics.

No disagreement with you on the last part, except I don't think you actually need a Senate majority. You just need a few adults in the room. Jackson's vote is an example even though she would have succeeded without the Republicans.
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