General Election 2024

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October 31st, 2024 at 9:01:58 AM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
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Quote: Tanko
The TDS is strong in you Obi.

Levers of Power. You forgot about the Abraham Accords where Morocco, UEA, Sudan and Bahrain signed peace agreements with Israel. Something no other world leader, or the thirteen presidents before him could do. Re-negotiating NAFTA, which had cost our economy 4.5 million manufacturing jobs. Sanctions on Iran that cut their oil production 67% and limited their ability to develop nuclear weapons and fund terrorism.

Do you think Hamas and Hezbollah would have invaded Israel if Trump was still President?

Do you think Putin would have invaded Ukraine?

Americans across every demographic had a far better quality of life when Trump was president.

According to the Census Bureau, incomes reached a record high, and the level of poverty reached a record low in 2019.

In the first two years of the Trump administration, US Household debt increased by $0.86 trillion.

Under the Biden administration, US Household debt increased by $2.4 trillion, despite $1.9 trillion in stimulus spending to juice the economy.

In the first two years of the Trump administration, US Real Annual Median Income increased by $6,400 or 8.55%.

In the past nearly four years of the Biden administration, US Real Annual Median Income increased $1,050 or 1.3%.

In 2017, 70% of Americans considered themselves middle class.

In 2024, 54% of Americans consider themselves middle class.

There is no single definition of Middle Class, but in 2017, the middle 60% of Americans received 44.7% of the total income in the United States.

By the second quarter of 2024, 60% of Americans received 30.8% of the total wealth in the U.S. A 13.9% decrease.
Do you have no concept of the lag between political action and it's consequences?
October 31st, 2024 at 12:28:42 PM permalink
Tanko
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Posts: 2470
Quote: OnceDear
Do you have no concept of the lag between political action and it's consequences?


Political action and its consequences?

You mean how Biden's political actions contributed to 22% inflation, stagnated income growth, increased Household debt 23%, reduced the number of Americans who consider themselves 'middle class' by 23%, financed Iran's nuclear bomb development and terror campaign and allowed no less than ten million illegals to enter the US?
October 31st, 2024 at 2:37:13 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 217
Posts: 22938
There was only one new conflict in the world during covid.

Had nothing to do with Trump. Xi was locking people down not thinking about Taiwan. In crowded Lebanon, Hamas was probably sick as hell. Russia was probably hiding their difficulties, because you didn’t hear much at all.

There was a big downturn overall in the world. US did a pretty decent recovery overall compared to the rest of the world.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
October 31st, 2024 at 2:53:48 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
Member since: Aug 24, 2023
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Posts: 2831
Quote: Tanko
Political action and its consequences?

You mean how Biden's political actions contributed to 22% inflation, stagnated income growth, increased Household debt 23%, reduced the number of Americans who consider themselves 'middle class' by 23%, financed Iran's nuclear bomb development and terror campaign and allowed no less than ten million illegals to enter the US?


Your point is?

And at least he kept a second Trump term at bay. Works for me.
October 31st, 2024 at 3:20:08 PM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
Threads: 34
Posts: 4241
More rhetoric against at least 100 million folks.

Not good for Harris so close to an election.

Sabotage?




Senator Ron Johnson: “No, he's talking about the supporters. It's obvious. It's been obvious for a long time,” he insisted. “Biden's been accusing half of America of being potential domestic terrorists, and Kamala Harris again, Nazi lovers … Hillary Clinton: ‘deplorables.’”

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From 'deplorables' to 'garbage,' Democrats embrace insults, intolerance in the Trump era

October 30, 2024
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https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/wedfrom-deplorables-garbage-democrats-embraced-intolerance-trump-era

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October 31st, 2024 at 3:37:55 PM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
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October 31st, 2024 at 6:31:15 PM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Posts: 5744
I think Trump is going to make a big mistake. Supposedly he is going to Muslim dominated Dearborn to give a speech. I’ll bet he alienates both the pro Hamas crowd that lives there and the pro Israel national listeners.

What can he say to the Arab community? I was joking during my presidency when I wanted a Muslim travel ban?
November 1st, 2024 at 2:14:46 AM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
Threads: 15
Posts: 1788
You mean Biden's Muslim Ban? Or was it Clinton's, or Barrack Hussain Obama's. Yes that was it. Obama's

You have a point. His opportunity to put his foot in it will be enormous..... But then so might it be for Harris and Biden.

Those influenced in attendance will be nothing compared to those in the national audience.
November 1st, 2024 at 4:53:58 AM permalink
PotPie
Member since: Oct 9, 2022
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Posts: 550
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the foolish sayings of a rich man pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
November 1st, 2024 at 5:42:16 AM permalink
odiousgambit
Member since: Oct 28, 2012
Threads: 165
Posts: 6377
Quote: GenoDRPh
Your point is?

And at least he kept a second Trump term at bay. Works for me.
this is one of the problems, caring more about that than anything else. How do you feel at the grocery store, say, when you look at those prices? "Whew, glad to pay that! at least the President is a Dem!"
I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me]