General Election 2024

Poll
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No votes (0%)
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1 vote (6.66%)
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15 members have voted

October 28th, 2024 at 8:37:35 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
Threads: 25
Posts: 5744
Just to remind everyone, if someone says Trump has a 60% chance of winning, if Trump loses it DOES NOT mean the predictor was wrong. Nor does it mean if Trump wins they were right.

If you say someone has a 60% chance of winning, and that person ALWAYS wins, then your 60% prediction was WRONG.

If the pollster is accurate, then around 40% of the time the other candidate SHOULD win.

I will be FASCINATED by the blame game the Democrats will resort to if Kamala loses to the most flawed candidate in Presidential history.
Will the Democrats see this as a repudiation of their flawed crime/border/economy/etc. policies or keep their heads in the sand and keep saying abortion, abortion, abortion?

If Trump loses I’d like to see if they jettison Trump and move back to what the Republican Party should be, or will they just shout ‘stolen, stolen, stolen’?

If Trump loses, no way he is gracious in defeat. I’m wondering if Harris would be?

Warren Buffett endorsed both HRC, and BHO. But did not endorse Biden. Some expected he would endorse Harris, but specifically did not. Implying it would be bad for Berkshire Hathaway if he did. Hmmmm…..
October 28th, 2024 at 8:49:28 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
Member since: Aug 24, 2023
Threads: 5
Posts: 2833
Quote: Tanko
Trump was gaining support among Latinos.

Last night, at the MSG rally, that all disappeared when so-called comedian Tony Hinchcliffe warmed up the crowd with,

“There’s a lot going on. Like, I don’t know if you know this but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico,” Hinchcliffe said, eliciting mixed reactions from the crowd.

"Latinos “love making babies.”

“They do. There’s no pulling out. They don’t do that. They come inside. Just like they did to our country,”


Trump has been insulting Hispanics since he came down that elevator in 2015. Those Hispanics who were and are willing to overlook his insults and vote for him maybe won't change their mind after Sunday. But, it didn't help attract new voters, that's for sure.
October 28th, 2024 at 8:57:05 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
Member since: Aug 24, 2023
Threads: 5
Posts: 2833
Quote: SOOPOO
Just to remind everyone, if someone says Trump has a 60% chance of winning, if Trump loses it DOES NOT mean the predictor was wrong. Nor does it mean if Trump wins they were right.

If you say someone has a 60% chance of winning, and that person ALWAYS wins, then your 60% prediction was WRONG.

If the pollster is accurate, then around 40% of the time the other candidate SHOULD win.

I will be FASCINATED by the blame game the Democrats will resort to if Kamala loses to the most flawed candidate in Presidential history.
Will the Democrats see this as a repudiation of their flawed crime/border/economy/etc. policies or keep their heads in the sand and keep saying abortion, abortion, abortion?

If Trump loses I’d like to see if they jettison Trump and move back to what the Republican Party should be, or will they just shout ‘stolen, stolen, stolen’?

If Trump loses, no way he is gracious in defeat. I’m wondering if Harris would be?

Warren Buffett endorsed both HRC, and BHO. But did not endorse Biden. Some expected he would endorse Harris, but specifically did not. Implying it would be bad for Berkshire Hathaway if he did. Hmmmm…..


If by "gracious" you mean will accept the results, yes she will. And she will certify the counting of the EVs and attend the inauguration. Won't make her hate him any less. We already can reliably predict what Donny and his cohort will say and do if he loses.

Buffett, Bezos, the LA Times pinead owner and all the other tech bros are all a bunch of cowards if they refuse to endorse Harris out of fear of reprisal from Trump.

BHO? Are you implying something by invoking his seldom used middle initial?
October 28th, 2024 at 9:32:28 AM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 30
Posts: 5257
Voted early today, very proud of myself.

It was more complicated than usual, police checkpoint at the door, and they make sure you turn off all of your phones and such. But, not very busy so still pretty quick (I was back at work within 10 mins.)
October 28th, 2024 at 9:33:32 AM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
Threads: 29
Posts: 13466
Quote: SOOPOO
Just to remind everyone, if someone says Trump has a 60% chance of winning, if Trump loses it DOES NOT mean the predictor was wrong. Nor does it mean if Trump wins they were right.

If you say someone has a 60% chance of winning, and that person ALWAYS wins, then your 60% prediction was WRONG.

If the pollster is accurate, then around 40% of the time the other candidate SHOULD win.

I will be FASCINATED by the blame game the Democrats will resort to if Kamala loses to the most flawed candidate in Presidential history.
Will the Democrats see this as a repudiation of their flawed crime/border/economy/etc. policies or keep their heads in the sand and keep saying abortion, abortion, abortion?

If Trump loses I’d like to see if they jettison Trump and move back to what the Republican Party should be, or will they just shout ‘stolen, stolen, stolen’?

If Trump loses, no way he is gracious in defeat. I’m wondering if Harris would be?

Warren Buffett endorsed both HRC, and BHO. But did not endorse Biden. Some expected he would endorse Harris, but specifically did not. Implying it would be bad for Berkshire Hathaway if he did. Hmmmm…..


Nate Silver got a lot of flack for 2016, but his model had a 70-30ish spilt. One of the only ones that gave Donny that big of a chance.

As for this election, it still seems like a coin toss to me. Going to come down to the standard swing states, where the polls are insanely close.

I am baffled why the righties seem so confident.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
October 28th, 2024 at 9:51:05 AM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 57
Posts: 5896
Quote: ams288

I am baffled why the righties seem so confident.


Anyone on either side that is confident is foolish.

When Trump won in 2016 almost nobody gave him a chance going into election night. If you remember, Hillary did not even have a concession speech prepared as there was no way she was losing.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
October 28th, 2024 at 10:01:44 AM permalink
missedhervee
Member since: Apr 23, 2021
Threads: 160
Posts: 5493
Funny how when I was young I was more open to the message of the democrats but as I got older and started accumulating wealth / assets I drifted more toward the republicans.

Yet I have voted Libertarian after first voting for McGovern, opting to "vote just for the sake of voting" as opposed to voting for one of the two major candidates, neither of whom ever met my personal criteria.

I vote Libertarian although I only favor some of their beliefs: the main thing with me, the thing I really agree with them on, is the idea of maximizing personal freedom with minimal gov't involvement.

This still seems to be part of the republican platform, i.e. the idea of "small" gov't., but since the religious zealots convinced the republicans to demonize abortion the republicans now intrude unacceptably on our personal freedom: plus the republican are running a werewolf as their candidate.

October 28th, 2024 at 10:35:20 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
Threads: 76
Posts: 12501
Quote: Gandler
Voted early today, very proud of myself.

It was more complicated than usual, police checkpoint at the door, and they make sure you turn off all of your phones and such. But, not very busy so still pretty quick (I was back at work within 10 mins.)

Lol
I took a picture of the poll observer.
Hardly any line but this was rural Trump country
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
October 28th, 2024 at 10:58:05 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 217
Posts: 22939
Even though it wouldn't be great for the Democrats, the most enjoyable outcome would be watching most Republicans win races where expected, and Trump losing by landslide.
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October 28th, 2024 at 12:28:53 PM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
Threads: 25
Posts: 5744
Quote: GenoDRPh
If by "gracious" you mean will accept the results, yes she will. And she will certify the counting of the EVs and attend the inauguration. Won't make her hate him any less. We already can reliably predict what Donny and his cohort will say and do if he loses.

Buffett, Bezos, the LA Times pinead owner and all the other tech bros are all a bunch of cowards if they refuse to endorse Harris out of fear of reprisal from Trump.

BHO? Are you implying something by invoking his seldom used middle initial?


Not really! When he was my classmate he was just ‘Barry’. I tend to use middle initials but forgot Biden’s ‘R’ middle name when typing. I would certainly go DJT if referring to Trump. And HRC is an easy one.

My point was that Buffett endorsed two Dems, but has now sat out the last two. I think his silence says something. Not what the Dems were hoping to hear.