General Election 2024

Quote: GenoDRPh

You prefer talking about Arnold Palmer's pecker instead? Give me supposed word salad from a rational mind any day of the week.

I want a President who is not a crude boor like Trump, nor a ‘word salad’ queen either. In my life I don’t excuse bad behavior because ‘Joe Schmo did worse’. You can tell me repeatedly that Harris is better than Trump. Just try once to convince me that her Presidency would be good for the country. Good luck with that.

Quote: SOOPOO

I want a President who is not a crude boor like Trump, nor a ‘word salad’ queen either. In my life I don’t excuse bad behavior because ‘Joe Schmo did worse’. You can tell me repeatedly that Harris is better than Trump. Just try once to convince me that her Presidency would be good for the country. Good luck with that.

(1) It's false equivalency to compare Kamala's supposed word salad to Donny's crude behavior. Let me know when Kamala talks about someone's pecker. I directly dare you to find any public statements from Kamala that are as crude, boorish or offensive as anything Donny has said.

(2) A Harris administration would be better for maternal and child health, which has suffered since Dobbs. Trump cannot be trusted on the subject, as he did not protect maternal and child health in the past.

(3) 23 Nobel prize economists endorse Harris's economic proposals over Trump's. I dare you to prove these economists wrong in their endorsement. WHat do you know about economics that they don't?

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/23/nobel-prize-winning-economists-donald-trump-agenda-endorse-harris.html

(4) Harris didn't try and overturn the results of a free and fair election by way of a violent insurrection. Donny did. He deserves jail.

(5) Harris won't send the police or the military after her political enemies. Donny has stated he will.

(6) Internationally, Trump is laughed at and distrusted. Harris won't be.

(7) Internationally, Harris is more likely to support freedom and democratic principles than Donny.

Quote: SOOPOO

Just try once to convince me that her Presidency would be good for the country. Good luck with that.

Nothing will convince you since you falsely blame Biden for inflation when in reality it's the Ukraine war.
It's a complicated world and a worldwide economy
You think one singular person is to blame for worldwide inflation
You have a closed mind when it comes to Dems
There are plenty of Republicans I can support
You are against ALL Dems. Closed mind
Geno made a great case above but you will ignore every point due to your unrelenting hate for all Dems

Quote: terapined

Nothing will convince you since you falsely blame Biden for inflation when in reality it's the Ukraine war.
It's a complicated world and a worldwide economy
You think one singular person is to blame for worldwide inflation
You have a closed mind when it comes to Dems
There are plenty of Republicans I can support
You are against ALL Dems. Closed mind
Geno made a great case above but you will ignore every point due to your unrelenting hate for all Dems

You saying I have a closed mind is laughable. I of course do not blame all inflation on Biden. There has been inflation in the vast majority of modern Presidencies. I blame general Democrat policies mostly. Especially the falsely propped up minimum wage in Democrat controlled states. And the added TRILLIONS in the laughable ‘Inflation Reduction Act’. Plus the TRILLIONS spent in the infrastructure bill. And I’ll remind you the Republicans pared that by a few TRILLION.

I would vote for any Democrat that is not just a puppet for the liberal agenda. I live in NY. FIND ME ONE!

As far as closed mind…. You are PURE Trump bad. No matter what the issue. Will you admit pre pandemic he was going a great job? And without the pandemic we wouldn’t be having this discussion as he would have cruised past Biden? Let’s see if you have an open mind?

Quote: SOOPOO

You saying I have a closed mind is laughable. I of course do not blame all inflation on Biden. There has been inflation in the vast majority of modern Presidencies. I blame general Democrat policies mostly. Especially the falsely propped up minimum wage in Democrat controlled states. And the added TRILLIONS in the laughable ‘Inflation Reduction Act’. Plus the TRILLIONS spent in the infrastructure bill. And I’ll remind you the Republicans pared that by a few TRILLION.

I would vote for any Democrat that is not just a puppet for the liberal agenda. I live in NY. FIND ME ONE!

As far as closed mind…. You are PURE Trump bad. No matter what the issue. Will you admit pre pandemic he was going a great job? And without the pandemic we wouldn’t be having this discussion as he would have cruised past Biden? Let’s see if you have an open mind?

Trump added 4.8 trillion to the debt
Far more then Biden
You think the Dems are bad for the debt but Trump added far more and you ignore that
He sucked before covid because he was worse then Biden when it comes to the debt
You live in some fantasy world where you rate Presidents without a crisis.
In Soopoos world, Hoover was the greatest President ever if it wasn't for the stock market crash.
Those fantasy evaluations are just fantasy
Trump inherited the Obama economy
Gee, without the Ukraine war, Biden would be reelected by a landslide according to the Soopoo presidential rating system excluding any crisis.
It Complete BS
Geno put up a fabulous list of why Trump is bad for the country and due your closed mind, you can't respond to his post.
You are so anti Dem, you can't deal with the fact Trump added more to the debt then Biden
Way more
Reality is Republicans only pretend to care about the debt when there is a Dem President. They don't care about the debt when a republican is president and let it balloon.

Quote: SOOPOO

You saying I have a closed mind is laughable. I of course do not blame all inflation on Biden. There has been inflation in the vast majority of modern Presidencies. I blame general Democrat policies mostly. Especially the falsely propped up minimum wage in Democrat controlled states. And the added TRILLIONS in the laughable ‘Inflation Reduction Act’. Plus the TRILLIONS spent in the infrastructure bill. And I’ll remind you the Republicans pared that by a few TRILLION.

I would vote for any Democrat that is not just a puppet for the liberal agenda. I live in NY. FIND ME ONE!

As far as closed mind…. You are PURE Trump bad. No matter what the issue. Will you admit pre pandemic he was going a great job? And without the pandemic we wouldn’t be having this discussion as he would have cruised past Biden? Let’s see if you have an open mind?

As for minimum wage: please tell us how much a gas station attendant, or grocery store cashier should make? Should they also have access to pension/401(k) retirement planning? What about affordable methods to pay for medical care, with that medical care being on par with the medical care available to the more well-heeled earners? Please tell us how much of the economic/financial/medical health of the working poor and the working class you think we should sacrifice for the economic welfare of the nation?

Pre-pandemic Trump was on something of a roll, but then a crisis hit. And he handled it like he handled all other crisis that came before that he handled. Which is to say, poorly. Any knucklehead who isn't a, well, knucklehead can do nothing when times are good. But, I want someone who is willing to handle it when things are going bad. And Donny isn't that person.

Quote: SOOPOO

I want a President who is not a crude boor like Trump, nor a ‘word salad’ queen either. In my life I don’t excuse bad behavior because ‘Joe Schmo did worse’. You can tell me repeatedly that Harris is better than Trump. Just try once to convince me that her Presidency would be good for the country. Good luck with that.

To continue:

(8) Donny has no morals whatsoever. He has no morals in his personal life, none in business and none when he was in office.The evangelicals like him because of his anti-abortion stance, and are willing to overlook his massive personal failings that would've gotten him bounced from their ranks solely because of his anti-abortion stance. And make no mistake, he will amplify his anti-abortion stance and policies if he returns to office.

(9)As for LGBTQ rights, it's a no-brainer. He will roll back as many of those gains as he can if he gets back in office.

(10)He will roll back, as much as he can, environmental protection regulations in the name of helping the economy grow.

(11) He is nothing if not a con-man and a total liar. Nothing he says is trustworthy and is always worthy of fact-checking. He makes public policy positions based on the lies he tells, not based on objective facts or fact-based conclusions.

(12) He is an irrational, deranged, simplistic man whose mind doesn't work and is intellectually incurious. I dare you to compare the rationality of his public statements to those of Kamala. There is no comparison.

(13) He seeks to divide the nation. And he has succeeded.

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a longish story from the NYT explaining how GOP leaders plan to contest the election results should Harris be declared the winner

Headline: "The Army of Election Officials Ready to Reject the Vote"


https://archive.ph/hXFcm/again?url=https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/25/magazine/far-right-election-results.html


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Quote: GenoDRPh

. But, I want someone who is willing to handle it when things are going bad. And Donny isn't that person.

One of the biggest things I worry about.

I see a man who knows how to double down, but like a terrible gambler when that finally doesn't work we'll be in trouble.

And definitely a man whose ego is so big it is a danger that he'll let everything self-destruct before he'd admit failure.

And yeah, I'm not worried when things go well.

Quote: GenoDRPh

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/23/nobel-prize-winning-economists-donald-trump-agenda-endorse-harris.html

The list of usual suspects.

Economics is the only profession where someone can be wrong 100% of the time and still win a prize, let alone keep their job.

Stiglitz praised the economic policies of Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez. 'Continually Mistaken, Chronically Admired'

Banjeree in 2019, said there is no basis to believe corporate tax cuts are good for the economy. Despite the economy already surging after the tax cuts. 'Why Nobel laureate Abhijit Banerjee is wrong about corporate tax cuts'

Janet Yellen. PhD Yale said in 2021. "The inflation is transitory". Later publicly regretted that statement.

Shiller predicted a market correction in 2014, claiming stocks, bonds and housing were over priced. The Dow went up six straight years after that, for another 12,000 points.

Economists made the same dire predictions about Trump in 2016.

'Trump's policies likely lead to one unavoidable economic reaction: inflation'

'Donald Trump may kill the global recovery'

'Fed, wary of inflation, could lean against Trump tax cut'

What happened between 2017 and 2019?

Real median income increased a record 6.8% and reached an all time high of $68,700 in 2019.

Real median income grew by 7.9 percent for black Americans, 7.1 percent for Hispanic Americans, and 10.6 percent for Asian Americans (see Figure 1). These one-year increases were all record highs, and the new income levels reached in 2019 were all record highs, as well.

The official poverty rate fell to an all-time record low of 10.5 percent in 2019. Over 4 million people were lifted out of poverty between 2018 and 2019 for a 1.3 percentage point decrease. This was the largest reduction in poverty in over 50 years.

The poverty rate fell to an all-time record low for every race and ethnic group in 2019. Notably, the black poverty rate fell below 20 percent for the first time in history.

The 1.2 million black Americans lifted out of poverty since 2016 is also the largest reduction on record—spanning over 50 years—for the first 3 years of any President’s administration.

Children fared even better than the overall population. Child poverty fell to a near 50-year low in 2019, falling by 1.8 percentage points to 14.4 percent. Since 2016, 2.8 million children have been lifted out of poverty, including over 1 million Hispanic children.