January 6 redux

January 7th, 2022 at 7:36:08 AM permalink
RonC
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Quote: rxwine
The recourse is appeals, lawsuits, or even class action lawsuits (by Lin Wood). And if you're convicted, any time served usually goes to shortening the sentence.


Those remedies don't change the fact that you were held longer than than those charged similarly. You never get a day you spend in jail (or any day, of course) back and remedies after the fact will not change that.
January 7th, 2022 at 7:38:56 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: RonC
Those remedies don't change the fact that you were held longer than than those charged similarly. You never get a day you spend in jail (or any day, of course) back and remedies after the fact will not change that.


If you want perfect justice, I have no suggestions where you could live.
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January 7th, 2022 at 7:40:32 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Mission146
You'll notice the words, "Without warning," in the section you quoted.


I'm just making a joke in poor taste.
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January 7th, 2022 at 7:41:02 AM permalink
RonC
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Quote: rxwine
If you want perfect justice, I have no suggestions where you could live.


I get it; it will not be perfect. That does not mean you should not try to make it the best possible!
January 7th, 2022 at 7:44:31 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Mission146
Name three issues where you disagree with the GOP company line...and not by being MORE conservative.


Sure. I was against McCain-Feingold. I am against them propping up domestic sugar. And I was and am against their stance against online poker and gambling.


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I think that's actually fair. On that note, I'm one of the few people that actually would have done the same thing in both instances, "You loot, we shoot." That's after giving the crowd a reasonable amount of time to go elsewhere, of course.

We certainly wouldn't have these goofy trials and be talking about it more than a year later if they were all dead.


Dr. Turley had a good video comparison of Jan 6 and ANTIFA after Trump was elected. ANTIFA was far worse, smashing and destroying. You have to ask why Pelosi is not so ready to investigate there.
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January 7th, 2022 at 8:03:15 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: AZDuffman
Sure. I was against McCain-Feingold. I am against them propping up domestic sugar. And I was and am against their stance against online poker and gambling.

Dr. Turley had a good video comparison of Jan 6 and ANTIFA after Trump was elected. ANTIFA was far worse, smashing and destroying. You have to ask why Pelosi is not so ready to investigate there.


Who cares which one is, "Worse?" When the line of a, "Peaceful public protest," gets crossed, you order the crowd to disperse, give them a reasonable amount of time to disperse and then, when time's up, start making some examples.

On the side of the Left, some of them would have me believe that the looting and rioting is a, "False narrative," and though I can't remember it specifically...one of their morons was comparing the $$$ damage in whatever amount of time and across however many cities to the L.A. Riots to say that the looting and rioting was a, "False Narrative."

It's like, THAT'S YOUR ARGUMENT? Everything is a false narrative unless you get as much money in damages and as many deaths as there were during the L.A. Riots!? By that standard, there'll quite possibly never be anything that constitutes a riot again.

Even if that's not enough, why would the Left-leaners in the mainstream media, such as MSNBC and CNN, report on a, "False narrative," of looting and rioting?

I wish I could remember where I saw that. It would have been funny, if not so poor an argument as to be sad.
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January 7th, 2022 at 8:30:15 AM permalink
terapined
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My January 6th did not suck. On the contrary, yesterday was the first time I got drunk since moving to Florida. Now, January 7th sucks as I am very hungover.

Yesterday was great
Played golf at the links at lake Bernadette
1st golf in over a year
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January 7th, 2022 at 9:05:49 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: terapined
Yesterday was great
Played golf at the links at lake Bernadette
1st golf in over a year


I haven't played in so long, I'd be afraid if I joined a threesome, I'd hold them up or injure one with an errant shot.
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January 7th, 2022 at 10:00:26 AM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: RonC
Keeping 1/6 alive and in the news is their only path towards retaining power in 2022, and it is a narrow one. That could change if they got some things done, but is where we are right now.


Oh, why is that?

Most Americans do not support Trump, the republican party is in as much disarray as the democrats.

I don't think that it is a foregone conclusion at all, lots can still happen between now and the election.

The biggest problem the democrats have is them being linked to the progressives like AOC; the problem for republicans is Trump.
January 7th, 2022 at 10:10:16 AM permalink
RonC
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Quote: missedhervee
Oh, why is that?

Most Americans do not support Trump, the republican party is in as much disarray as the democrats.

I don't think that it is a foregone conclusion at all, lots can still happen between now and the election.

The biggest problem the democrats have is them being linked to the progressives like AOC; the problem for republicans is Trump.


I said that it could change...nothing is a foregone conclusion this early.

Quote: RonC
That could change if they got some things done, but is where we are right now.


I don't believe that things are as dire for the Democrats as some do based on current polling. They are in a pickle, but not one that cannot be recovered from and there is always the opportunity for the other party to screw things up. They also have history against them in that seats usually go to the party not in the WH in the midterms.