Reopening fiasco?

Quote: Evenbob

We later found out that exactly the same number of people got the virus whether they were wearing masks or not .

Which part of 'Wearing the mask protects the other person, not the wearer' did you not understand?

(ffp3 / n99 masks may also protect the wearer, but who wears those?)

So when you do get around citing evidence for that claim (As if that will ever happen), you need the stat that says ...
"exactly the same number of people got the virus whether the people they were with were wearing masks or not "

Which again, you won't cite evidence for. You never do.

Quote: OnceDear

Which part of 'Wearing the mask protects the other person, not the wearer' did you not understand?

Probably the part where we never see any correlation of this. Texas and Florida did just fine with no masks.

Quote: AZDuffman

So you are saying they will outright lie to us when it suits their needs. And you still want to believe them? Really?

“When it suits their needs”? No, nothing like Trump.

More like lying that you don’t know where Helen Keller was hiding, when you actually do.

I don’t necessarily endorse a lie when someone telling a dying person they are doing better than they are, But it’s enough of a judgement call, I don*t feel I can even judge it.

Same with worrying about a ‘run” on PPE. It looks like Fauci was right. Look what happened to toilet paper for months even after people were told this wasn’t going to be a shortage?

Quote: OnceDear

Which part of 'Wearing the mask protects the other person, not the wearer' did you not understand?

(ffp3 / n99 masks may also protect the wearer, but who wears those?)

So when you do get around citing evidence for that claim (As if that will ever happen), you need the stat that says ...
"exactly the same number of people got the virus whether the people they were with were wearing masks or not "

Which again, you won't cite evidence for. You never do.

US states had very different mask mandates yet the states are quite consistent in the percentage of people who have had Covid. If we pick 11% of population having had Covid than 38 states are within 20% of that figure. Most of the outliers are smaller and more remote states. Given the wide variety of shut downs and variety of mandates we would expect a lot more difference in numbers between states if the measures were highly effective.

Quote: AZDuffman

Except summer is when it is not supposed to spread. People are outside not inside. Harder to spread in warmer weather. Last summer case numbers went down compared to cooler weather.

I am pretty sure Trump is the only person to claim it will disappear in the summer....

Quote: Gandler

I am pretty sure Trump is the only person to claim it will disappear in the summer....

Maybe because the cases did fall significantly last summer? Google Covid waves and educate yourself.

I think two things make winter better for virus spread. RNS. (Runny nose syndrome) and people staying together breathing the same slightly heated air to avoid being outside.). But that’s a guess.

Quote: Gandler

I am pretty sure Trump is the only person to claim it will disappear in the summer....

I remember when he said 60,000 American deaths would be a success. Then he moved the goalposts to 200,000. Then he just stopped pretending to care.

Quote: AZDuffman

Not being overweight and having Type O blood will do the same thing.

We have all these vaccinated people yet somehow we are having another surge?

Why on earth should I believe anything they are telling us?

Well, you didn't believe it was a legitimate pandemic. How'd that work out for you?

It could also be winter wind blows less on average. The molecules are more dense. I would much rather be in moving air outside if next to an infected person.