Who is Blocking Racial Progress?

Quote: odiousgambit

The last two posts are anathema to the group of people in this country that are largely in power now after this last election. Yet really their only sin is being too blunt.

In response they will try to cancel the message. They will successfully cancel some vulnerable people ... often innocent but just incautious and vulnerable. So we wonder will such messages that are being allowed by not-so-vulnerable people in venues that allow free speech, will they somehow be able to cancel them too? They do seem to be working on that.

Here is the thing, I cannot speak for EB but suspect he agrees. If they want to keep living life like they are it affects me not at all. Liberals who cannot handle the blunt truth I really do not care. I work to improve my own life. Someone wants to "hang around the hood and complain about 'the man' and how he can't get anywhere" well let them.

I have hired black guys to do work on my properties and met a couple that have built a landlording empire for themselves. Guess what they were not doing. They were not whining that they could not do it because someone who they never heard of was a slave to someone else they never heard of. They were not whining that they could not do it. They did not have a car with rims worth more than the car. They were out making it happen.

Well, the guy who painted had a nice Audi and a nice bike, also worked like a dog getting my place painted. Charged a fair price and I paid him in green. I'd use him again but I have another painter who also does all kinds of add-ons if I need.

Quote: terapined

I 2nd that
Every Black person I've known is not confused but actually pretty intelligent on what's going on in life

I've known stupid black people and smart ones. Just because society is woke doesn't mean every black person I've met in my entire life had a genius-level IQ, though some of them certainly did.

Just like the Caucasians I've known, some of them can have a substantive conversation about virtually any topic for hours, some of them would misspell their own names if I spotted them two letters.

I'm going to say that the only category of people that seem to be significantly stupider than others, on average, is White Evangelical Christians.

Quote: Mission146

I've known stupid black people and smart ones. Just because society is woke doesn't mean every black person I've met in my entire life had a genius-level IQ, though some of them certainly did.

Not genius level
Just regular intelligent people
Just about all Black people I have made friendships with over the years were all International corporate travel counselors just like me
All very smart
I worked for America Express for decades. It was run by a Black guy, Ken Chennault.'
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There is no doubt every segment of the population has stupid people.
I think its stupid and dumb to take one part of the population and say they have more stupid people then another segment simply based on race.
There are dumb Asians. There are dumb Jews. There are dumb whites. There are dumb Blacks

Quote: terapined

Not genius level
Just regular intelligent people
Just about all Black people I have made friendships with over the years were all International corporate travel counselors just like me
All very smart
I worked for America Express for decades. It was run by a Black guy, Ken Chennault.

Oh, so all of the ones that you've been friends with have been in a mid to high-level job? I guess I'm not surprised that they're intelligent, then. Unlike some of the woke people, I've actually had friendships with people of all races (at least, those races that are around me) from all walks of life.

I'm not talking about you, personally, but I've regularly hung out in bars that would make some of these, "Woke," folks urinate their pants as soon as they walked in the door. LOL. I guess they can continue to preach to me about how I'm not woke enough, though.

Quote: Mission146

Oh, so all of the ones that you've been friends with have been in a mid to high-level job? I guess I'm not surprised that they're intelligent, then. Unlike some of the woke people, I've actually had friendships with people of all races (at least, those races that are around me) from all walks of life.

I'm not talking about you, personally, but I've regularly hung out in bars that would make some of these, "Woke," folks urinate their pants as soon as they walked in the door. LOL. I guess they can continue to preach to me about how I'm not woke enough, though.

I added an edit to even out my post but I'll add it here again

There is no doubt every segment of the population has stupid people.
I think its stupid and dumb to take one part of the population and say they have more stupid people then another segment simply based on race.
There are dumb Asians. There are dumb Jews. There are dumb whites. There are dumb Blacks

Quote: Evenbob

Black people are in a permanent state of confusion. They make fun of black students who get good grades, yet get pissed when the whites and Asians get all the good jobs because they're better educated. They make fun of black people who become cops, at the same time complaining there are too many white cops. They have made an art form out of talking out of both sides of their mouth at once. They complain about 'whitey' running everything, while at the same time mocking any blacks who appear to be in the least bit ambitious. Talk about sending mixed messages to their kids..

What? Of course if you compare all the views of white people, liberals to conservatives, as just one area for instance, you’d get the same impression that they don’t represent unified thinking. Don’t foist your silly nonsense on just black people.

I dealt with a lot of black people when I had the cab company who worked for me, and who were customers. I had a black driver who was constantly complaining about how the white man was holding him down, holding him back. Nobody was holding him back, he just wasn't very bright. One day when he was whining about white people, I told him that it's even worse than he thinks. Not only are white people not holding him back, very few white people could give a damn what black people are doing. I asked him if he really thought all white people did was sit around all day thinking about how to screw the black man. Of course that's what he thought, that's what he's been told all his life. I've never met a single white person in my life who is trying to hold black people back. We barely have time for our own problems, let alone making problems for other people.

Quote: rxwine

What? Of course if you compare all the views of white people, liberals to conservatives, as just one area for instance, you’d get the same impression that they don’t represent unified thinking. Don’t foist your silly nonsense on just black people.

I agree
Its a very diverse group
Just as diverse as whites
You meet one black person and get to know that person
You met an individual, not the race :-)

: rxwine
Don’t foist your silly nonsense on just black people.

Where did I say I was doing that. I was just making some observations. The new woke culture is so terrified of being labeled with the r word that they throw their skirts over their heads and run in the opposite direction with their fingers in their ears. In the new Woke world everybody is the same, there is no distinctions of any kind anymore. We're all just kind of a pasty gray clump.

Quote: AZDuffman

Is that some kind of requirement in life these days?

What Bob says there is true. What we need is politicians who are not afraid to say the same thing. Because most of the problems of black society are self-inflicted. Why do black majority schools have such a reputation for violence and low education standards? If the school is majority black in students, teachers, and even administration then you cannot blame "whitey." Ditto black metro areas. Why is there more crime and the area just not well kept up?

But as soon as a real solution is suggested the person pointing it out is called a racist. Biggest one is kids out of wedlock, which is the express lane to lifetime poverty. Say that black women need to stop doing this and you get attacked from all sides. So the attitude becomes that if they want to life such a life let them.

As to the last part, I don't know if it's the religious or conservatives who have done more harm to the whole business of unwanted pregnancy by not only not supporting a liberal approach, but absolutely condemning it.

The liberal approach is the only one which gives all the options. The BRUTAL reality is kids (girls and boys) need explicit sex counseling at the age 11 or earlier. The BRUTAL reality is if you depend on parents to do it, you're not going to solve the worst of the problems. The BRUTAL reality is once you've argued abstinence as an option you need to make it okay for kids who ignore that to pursue "the pill" and other birth control options for those that can use them. The BRUTAL reality is FREE birth control like "the pill" will pay for itself in poor communities if you think welfare moms are a burden on society. The BRUTAL reality is religious organizations need to spend way more time preparing their kids for a PLANNED PARENTHHOOD than condemning out of wedlock sex. And they need to stop pretending it's more to chastity than luck that their girls didn't get pregnant.

Kids in nice neighborhoods are making all the same mistakes. They aren't better. But you're unlikely to hear about it as affluence often means more education more options and thus better secrecy.