The Biden Presidency 2021

December 15th, 2020 at 1:13:12 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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No.




In other news, Multi billionaire Larry Ellison also packs up and leaves California. Another bunch of $millions gone from the California tax rolls.


As long as he doesn't leave the US it's California's problem.


But won't he have to pay the CA Exit Tax?
The President is a fink.
December 15th, 2020 at 1:15:45 PM permalink
rxwine
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As long as he doesn't leave the US it's California's problem.


But won't he have to pay the CA Exit Tax?


There is no exit tax. There is a proposed exit tax.


All those high tech companies in the same place just drives up the prices of everything.
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December 15th, 2020 at 1:25:34 PM permalink
terapined
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And gas taxes are passed on to Uber customers.

It is amazing how many people are unaware of the effect of taxes on many things.

Yup
like the taxes that improve the road infrastructure that allows Uber to run a business better.
Its amazing how many people are unaware how companies benefit from the tax dollars the Govt spends
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December 15th, 2020 at 1:44:47 PM permalink
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I dont agree
I had a discussion about this with a conservative I worked with. She was upset that a fellow worker with 3 young kids that was so busy, she did not have time to follow the issues still had the right to vote. She insisted since she watched Foxnews all the time where the other woman did not watch any news, she was more informed and her vote should count and the Mother of 3 children should not have the right to vote because she does not watch the news and probably vote Dem
I thought her arguement was absurd


I agree that's an absurd argument---on the grounds of the other woman should have the right to vote. When you have a completely uninformed voter (assuming the first lady is right) and one who only follows one media outlet, they're probably pretty close to equally ill-informed on the issues. I'd prefer if neither of them voted, but do think both do and should have the right to.
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December 15th, 2020 at 1:50:02 PM permalink
Mission146
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I'm thrilled with what's happening in Georgia. Higher participation. No doubt Mission has a right to disappointed in what looks like a very high rate of voter participation
I'm proud that Asian Americans have some of the highest voter participation in the country. Mission has the right to be disappointed in this as well but I think it's sad to have that view.


I know you're not making an actual accusation here, but I don't like the implication that I would prefer one segment of the population voting as compared to another segment. I've never really taken a deep look at how well-informed individual segments of the population are compared to the population at-large and have no reason to do so.

All I would prefer is for anyone who votes to be well-informed. Religion, ethnicity, socio-economic background and education (though I imagine there's a positive correlation with being well-educated and well-informed) are immaterial to me. I also don't care what the voter's positions are or who they intend to vote for; I would simply want voters to be making a well-informed decision.
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December 15th, 2020 at 1:53:02 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Yup
like the taxes that improve the road infrastructure that allows Uber to run a business better.
Its amazing how many people are unaware how companies benefit from the tax dollars the Govt spends


That too! I'll use ME as an example! I worked at a hospital that was owned and operated by my county. Without those tax dollars my job for the past 15 years would not have existed.

Even when in private practice a decent portion of my income was from things paid by tax dollars, like Medicare, Workers Comp, etc...

I am not against taxes. I would actually raise taxes to help pay down the national debt. And decrease spending on a number of things..... But those two points make me unelectable!
December 15th, 2020 at 2:35:00 PM permalink
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Biden to nominate Buttigieg as transportation secretary


Amy Klobuchar “liked” this tweet. Apparently she doesn’t realize people can see what you “like” on Twitter.

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December 15th, 2020 at 2:38:13 PM permalink
rxwine
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That's funny. I'm not too worried about the fate of the transportation department. When is the last time we had a major transportation fail by the head of that department? So much, that we had that person removed?
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December 15th, 2020 at 5:13:51 PM permalink
kenarman
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That's funny. I'm not too worried about the fate of the transportation department. When is the last time we had a major transportation fail by the head of that department? So much, that we had that person removed?


He should do very good as the head of anything. He is a very experienced headee and header.
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December 15th, 2020 at 7:38:24 PM permalink
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No. In other news, Multi billionaire Larry Ellison also packs up and leaves California. Another bunch of $millions gone from the California tax rolls.


It looks like he has plenty of places to stay in California, Rhode Island or Japan whenever he wants to leave Lanai.


Here are all the houses and properties belonging to the cofounder of Oracle:


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In 2012, Ellison paid a reported $300 million to buy 98% of the Hawaiian island of Lanai. The land includes 90,000 acres of land, 3,2000 residents, and two Four Seasons resorts.Since purchasing the island, Ellison has bought two airlines, refurbished the island's hotels, and started investing in clean energy sources. He plans to use the island as an experiment for environmentally sound practices.

One of the two resorts on the island, the Four Seasons Resort Lanai, reopened in February 2016 after a months-long renovation. The renovated hotel includes a Nobu restaurant and over 200 hotel rooms. The resort has designer boutiques, an "adults-only retreat" with waterfalls, and an 18-hole golf course designed by legendary champion Jack Nicklaus.

In February 2014, Ellison purchased more residential properties near the other Lanai hotel, the Four Seasons Resorts Lanai at Manele Bay. He spent a little more than $41 million on the additional homes.

Included in his purchase of the island was the Lana’i Animal Rescue Center, which is reportedly home to about 400 feral cats.Many of the cats were rescued from the dump and other sites near the Four Seasons, according to a Buzzfeed News feature on the center.
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Larry Ellison bought this $3.9 million home in San Francisco's swanky Pacific Heights neighborhood in 1988, more than 10 years after founding Oracle. Ellison owns a 10,000-square-foot mansion, designed by architect William Wurster, with four levels and five bedrooms. The Pacific Heights neighborhood is known as "Billionaire's Row," which is also home to other tech moguls like Zynga founder Mark Pincus, Apple designer Jony Ive, and Yelp CEO Jeremy Stoppelman.


He also owns a 23-acre estate in Woodside, California. Ellison reportedly spent $200 million on renovating the property, which is modeled after a 16th-century Japanese imperial palace. Ellison first purchased the property in 1995 for $12 million. It reportedly took nine years to design and renovate the Woodside home, and it was completed in 2004.

Ellison also once owned an equestrian compound, not far from his Woodside estate, which he purchased for $23 million in 2005. However, he put the property up for sale in 2011. Ellison took a markdown for the estate, which he listed at $19 million. The two-part property spanned almost seven acres, and had a barn for horses, a beach volleyball court, and a pool.

In nearby Palo Alto, Ellison owns the Epiphany Hotel, which he purchased for $71.6 million in 2015. While Ellison still owns the hotel, it's has been managed by Nobu Hospitality since 2017 under the name Nobu Hotel Epiphany. The hotel is currently under renovation, but will open in 2020 with 73 rooms equipped with Alexa virtual assistants that range from $600 to $900 a night.

Ellison owns as many as two dozen properties in Malibu, California, including at least 10 on a stretch of Carbon Beach known as "Billionaire's Beach." His total spending on properties in Malibu is an estimated $200 million to $250 million.

Since 2002, Ellison has steadily been buying up properties in Malibu. In 2013, he paid $18 million for producer Jerry Bruckheimer's house, and also paid $48 million for a five-bedroom home that once belonged to the late real estate developer Norman Ackenberg.

In 2004, Ellison paid $17.6 million for a Carbon Beach property now home to Nobu, an ultra-trendy chain of Japanese restaurants popular among Hollywood A-listers.
Ellison also bought the property right next door, where he opened a Mediterranean restaurant in 2013 called Nikita (named after his girlfriend Nikita Kahn). However, Nikita closed in late 2014, while Nobu Malibu remains successful.

In 2007, Ellison purchased the historic beachfront Casa Malibu Inn for $20 million. He transformed the property into a Japanese concept hotel called Nobu Ryokan Malibu, which opened in April 2017. To build the 16-room high-end hotel on Carbon Beach, Ellison teamed up with actor Robert De Niro, film producer Meir Teper, and Chef Nobu Matsuhisa, the mastermind behind the Nobu sushi chain.

The hotel is in the style of a ryokan, a traditional Japanese-style inn, with rooms overlooking the ocean that feature soaking tubs. Rooms are available for around $2,300 a night.

Ellison added to his real estate portfolio in Malibu in 2018 with a $38 million purchase of a beachfront house from movie producer Joel Silver.
The property has seven bedrooms and eight bathrooms, as well as a detached guest house with another two bedrooms and two bathrooms.

Ellison, an avid tennis fan himself, bought the Malibu Racquet Club for $6.9 million in 2007.
The facilities have been vastly improved since the purchase, with the addition of new tennis courts. Tennis pros Victoria Azarenka and Serena Williams have been spotted here.

The club is incredibly private — you have to score an invitation to become a member.

Ellison capitalized on his love for tennis in 2009: He bought the Indian Wells Tennis Garden, home to the professional tennis tournament BNP Paribas Open. The property is located just outside of Palm Springs, California. Since buying the property and the tournament for $100 million, Ellison transformed the facilities to accommodate for additional courts, bigger stadiums, and more room for attendees.

Ellison also owns a private golf club spanning almost 250 acres in Rancho Mirage, California. He bought the property for $42.9 million in 2011.
Previously owned by Yellowstone Club founders Tim and Edra Blixseth, the Porcupine Creek golf club includes a main house with a whopping 16 bedrooms, in addition to several separate guest houses.

Ellison also owns numerous properties along picturesque Lake Tahoe. He offloaded this home on Lake Tahoe's east shore in 2014 — it sold for $20.4 million.
The property — located in Glenbrook, Nevada — is more than 2.6 acres and has 13 bedrooms, a screening room, a library, and a sauna. Ellison purchased it in 2006, but decided to sell in favor of properties in Lake Tahoe's Snug Harbor and Incline Village.

Ellison has a number of properties in Incline Village, Nevada, an affluent neighborhood on Lake Tahoe's north shore favored by billionaires. The total amount he's spent on properties here is estimated at $102 million. The 7.6-acre property has a private beach and two private piers, a tennis court, and a pool and spa. There are a number of houses on the estate: a cottage, a writer's cabin, a beach house, a guard house, and more.

In 2017, Ellison purchased the iconic Cal Neva Resort — once owned by Frank Sinatra — in North Lake Tahoe for $35.8 million.
The 10-story lodge, hotel, and casino was once frequented by the likes of Marilyn Monroe and Judy Garland. Ellison is reportedly gearing up to renovate the property, which was built in 1926.

Across the US, on the East Coast, Ellison owns properties in ritzy Newport, Rhode Island. In 2010, he paid $10.5 million for the Beechwood Mansion, an estate he spent more than $100 million on to turn it into an art museum. The historic Beechwood Mansion once belonged to the Astor family, and is still under renovation to become an art museum housing Ellison's personal collection of 18th and 19th century European art.

After buying the Beechwood estate, Ellison purchased three surrounding properties on Newport's Bellevue Avenue. Most recently, Ellison bought the nearby Seacliff home for $11 million in February 2019. The Seacliff property has 10 total rooms and five bedrooms. By purchasing these four neighboring Bellevue Avenue properties, Ellison's Newport estate now spans nine acres.

Ellison owns a historic garden villa in Kyoto, Japan, reportedly listed for $86 million. The property is located on the grounds of Nanzen-ji, a Zen Buddhist temple in Kyoto. Ellison told CNBC in 2012 that the property will eventually become a Japanese art museum.