Presidential Election 2020 Biden vs. Trump

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August 15th, 2020 at 10:40:37 AM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Quote: AZDuffman
Highly doubtful. But if they need an ID they can go get one.


To clarify this stat is for Official State ID or passport (The type of ID needed to fly or vote etc....)
I am not talking about any ID card at all (High School ID or whatever...)



Quote: AZDuffman
ZERO good reason for it to have to be free. Also I am not in favor of the feds running an ID database. Good does not come from the feds doing this.

$50 for an ID that last 4 years to decades? Oh, the horror!

Next you will say it is unfair they have to get to the polls. Or that they have to wear a shirt and shoes at the polls.

Considering you cannot live a normal life without one, what is the big deal? Other than liberals are notoriously cheap.


You can't be serious? Zero good reasons to be free? ….

I know you grew up rich, but 50USD is a lot for some people. And, realistically the cost is much more (getting all of the documents required to get an ID if you don't have them, such as getting a certified BC, a new SS card.... etc..... all of which require missing days of work....). If you are homeless getting all of these documents with no permanent address is not just challenging, in some cases it is close to impossible, even if you have the cash.....

I have no problem with ID checks for voting. In fact I like ID checks in general. I would go even further, I have no problem with biometric verification in addition to ID (such as a fingerprint scan), but it needs to be provided free under a uniformed system..... Right now the voting ID laws vary widely state to state (as do the costs and requirements to obtain a state ID).... This is why a Federal database and federal ID is crucial.
August 15th, 2020 at 10:44:59 AM permalink
Gandler
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I just came across this video in YouTube recommended videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLIbDaqPXG8



Bill Maher telling Cory Booker if Democrats can't say , "Islamic Extremism" they will lose in 2016, sadly, he essentially predicted what happened. And, this may be an issue with this election as well, too much liberal dodging of this issue.

Hopefully Joe Biden gets the ability to be much more firm on this subject.
August 15th, 2020 at 10:46:47 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 148
Posts: 25978
Quote: Gandler

That is simply not true. According to the ACLU, 11% of American adult citizens have no ID.
.


The ACLU? LOLOLOLOL!!! And even if
true, why in gods name would you
want people so damn stupid that they
can't figure out how to get a simple
ID, why would you want them anywhere
near a voting booth.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 15th, 2020 at 11:26:03 AM permalink
Shrek
Member since: Aug 13, 2019
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Posts: 1855
Quote: AZDuffman
ZERO good reason for it to have to be free. Also I am not in favor of the feds running an ID database. Good does not come from the feds doing this.

$50 for an ID that last 4 years to decades? Oh, the horror!
I swear, this guy's excuses for having no ID are friggin embarrassing man. 🙄


Quote: Evenbob
The ACLU? LOLOLOLOL!!! And even if
true, why in gods name would you
want people so damn stupid that they
can't figure out how to get a simple
ID, why would you want them anywhere
near a voting booth.
He's young but hopefully he'll wise up when he gets older. Fingers crossed. 🤞
August 15th, 2020 at 12:06:07 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Posts: 12501
Quote: Gandler

Bill Maher telling Cory Booker if Democrats can't say , "Islamic Extremism" they will lose in 2016, sadly, he essentially predicted what happened.

BS
Thats not why they lost
Quote: Gandler

And, this may be an issue with this election as well, too much liberal dodging of this issue.

Hopefully Joe Biden gets the ability to be much more firm on this subject.

Its much ado about nothing.
There are extremists everywhere, conservative, liberal, Christian, Muslim.
Take Japan. I ran into extremists there of all places. right wing. riding around in trucks with banners and bullhorns yelling slogans.
There are even extremists in the deadhead community. Yup. We call them Wookie's.

This is a one issue election. Trump
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
August 15th, 2020 at 12:16:10 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Quote: terapined
BS
Thats not why they lost

Its much ado about nothing.
There are extremists everywhere, conservative, liberal, Christian, Muslim.
Take Japan. I ran into extremists there of all places. right wing. riding around in trucks with banners and bullhorns yelling slogans.
There are even extremists in the deadhead community. Yup. We call them Wookie's.



There is no comparison, one religion dominates extremism in a danger sense (as far as people killed).

How many people do Japense Nationals driving pickup trucks and shouting in bullhorn kill? How many people do wookies kill (I don't even know what that really means, but I'll still bet the answer is a statistical nothing)?

That attitude is why so many look weak in the party, because everyone wants to say, "oh well there are extremists everywhere" ....

Bill Maher was (is) 100% right....
August 15th, 2020 at 12:26:23 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 148
Posts: 25978
Quote: Gandler


Bill Maher was (is) 100% right....


How many times so far has
Biden or Harris denounced
ANTIFA/BLM for the thugs
and crooks and terrorists
they are. You think the
silent majority of voters
hasn't noticed that their
silence is that same as
agreeing with them? You
bet they've noticed.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 15th, 2020 at 12:30:03 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 137
Posts: 21195
Quote: Gandler

You can't be serious? Zero good reasons to be free? ….


Yes, I am serious. Life costs money.

Quote:
I know you grew up rich, but 50USD is a lot for some people. And, realistically the cost is much more (getting all of the documents required to get an ID if you don't have them, such as getting a certified BC, a new SS card.... etc..... all of which require missing days of work....). If you are homeless getting all of these documents with no permanent address is not just challenging, in some cases it is close to impossible, even if you have the cash.....


Not sure what your definition of "rich" is but I assure you I did not grow up that way. Not even close.

See, if it takes days off work to do all this then it takes days off work. YOU NEED AN ID TO WORK! You need to take the time off to get your life in order and get an ID like every other grown-up. It is part of life. Stick a crowbar in your wallet and get one! No excuse not to have ID. No reason to be against ID to vote except to be in favor of voter fraud. Enough with the poor mouthing excuses.

Quote:
I have no problem with ID checks for voting. In fact I like ID checks in general. I would go even further, I have no problem with biometric verification in addition to ID (such as a fingerprint scan), but it needs to be provided free under a uniformed system..... Right now the voting ID laws vary widely state to state (as do the costs and requirements to obtain a state ID).... This is why a Federal database and federal ID is crucial.


Somehow we have lasted what, 240 years without need for a Federal ID? See, you trust government. You love government. You do not see the evil that government is capable of. Perhaps when you get closer to my age and get more worldly you will. Until then, take my advice. Never give a government more power and control over you.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
August 15th, 2020 at 12:52:07 PM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
Threads: 25
Posts: 5748
Quote: Evenbob
The ACLU? LOLOLOLOL!!! And even if
true, why in gods name would you
want people so damn stupid that they
can't figure out how to get a simple
ID, why would you want them anywhere
near a voting booth.


Because they will always vote Democrat. Their intellect is high enough for them to be told ‘Trump bad’. Vote for other guy. We will give you a sandwich after. If there was an intellect test required to vote, like eliminate those below IQ 95, there would never be another Democrat President. If only those smart enough to have a job could vote, same result.
August 15th, 2020 at 12:54:06 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
Threads: 29
Posts: 13466
Quote: SOOPOO
If there was an intellect test required to vote, like eliminate those below IQ 95, there would never be another Democrat President. If only those smart enough to have a job could vote, same result.


You’re spewing a lot of bulls*** lately, SOOPOO.

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