Presidential Election 2020 Biden vs. Trump

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July 14th, 2020 at 1:53:53 PM permalink
RonC
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Quote: ams288
What in godís name is the point of this post?

Are you under the impression that I said the popular vote is going to elect the president this year?

Paco/Wiz were talking about the betting odds of who wins the popular vote. Itís clear that Biden will EASILY win the popular vote. By a bigger margin than Hillary won it in 2016. I donít even think there are any Trumpsters who would argue this (well, maybe Evenbob. He thinks Donny will win NY!!!!).


Nothing except pointing out that it only matters for betting purposes, fun, and losers to say they didn't "really" lose...just like in 2016 (sorry for the typo).

Hillary is talking about how she thinks Trump may not accept the results of the election if he loses. That is very funny because she has never accepted that she lost in 2016...the closest she comes to accepting it is blaming it on others.

I hope the Bidets take it easier should he lose.
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July 14th, 2020 at 2:30:31 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: RonC
That is very funny because she has never accepted that she lost in 2016...


This is a lie that righties always say to make themselves feel better about how unpopular Donny is with the majority of Americans.
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July 14th, 2020 at 3:25:51 PM permalink
ams288
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Anyone watching Donnyís rambling disaster of a press conference right now?

About ten thousand oppo ads are being cut from this mess right about now.
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July 15th, 2020 at 12:57:18 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: ams288
Paco/Wiz were talking about the betting odds of who wins the popular vote. Itís clear that Biden will EASILY win the popular vote. By a bigger margin than Hillary won it in 2016. I donít even think there are any Trumpsters who would argue this (well, maybe Evenbob. He thinks Donny will win NY!!!!).


Of the last 7 presidential elections, Republicans have the presidency three times, but they have won the popular vote only once, in 2004 when GW Bush beat John Kerry (50.7% to 48.3%).

CA has surpassed NY as the major Democratic stronghold. In the four previous elections, NY was ahead of CA by an average of about 3%. I could easily see California passing 64% Democratic in 2020.

CA Recent Elections % Democratic
2016 61.7%
2012 60.2%
2008 61.0%
2004 54.3%
2000 53.4%

NY Recent Elections % Democratic
2016 58.4%
2012 63.3%
2008 62.8%
2004 57.9%
2000 57.8%

IL Recent Elections % Democratic
2016 55.8%
2012 57.6%
2008 61.9%
2004 54.8%
2000 54.6%

Probably the only states that really matter are PA, MI, and WI. As far as most people in these states are concerned, California could go 80% Democrat.
  • Donald Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7%, one of three 'blue wall' states (Michigan & Wisconsin the others) he won on his way to winning the presidential election.
  • Michigan became part of the 'blue wall' that voted Democratic in six consecutive presidential elections from 1992 through 2012. Donald Trump narrowly flipped the state in 2016, defeating Hillary Clinton by just 0.2%. This was the closest state by popular vote.
  • Trump's victory in WI came despite the fact that of the dozens of polls tracked in the months leading up to the election, not a single one had him winning the state.
July 15th, 2020 at 3:50:39 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Pacomartin
Probably the only states that really matter are PA, MI, and WI.


Donnyís got some serious work to do if he wants it to come down to those three states.

Current polling averages of swing states:

Michigan:
Biden +9.4

Nevada:
Biden +8.3

New Hampshire:
Biden +8.0

Wisconsin:
Biden +7.8

Pennsylvania:
Biden +7.3

Florida:
Biden +6.0

North Carolina:
Biden +3.2

Ohio:
Biden +2.3

Arizona:
Biden +2.2

Georgia:
Biden +0.9

Texas:
Trump +0.1

Iowa:
Trump +0.6
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July 15th, 2020 at 6:09:24 AM permalink
RonC
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Quote: ams288
Anyone watching Donnyís rambling disaster of a press conference right now?


He did ramble a bit, but not nearly as much as Biden mumbled during his speech. The "Weekend at Biden's" people propped him up pretty well but he just has no energy and his message is "I'm going to do what we didn't do while I was Vice President or a Senator" and "I am going to destroy the economy while making us carbon neutral; we have nine years and I will get it done by 2035 (or did he say 2050? I thought I heard both)."

Watching Biden is hard compared to watching him in previous election attempts.

Biden is clearly leading in the polls, but candidates usually seem to move towards the center for the general election. Biden is shifting to his left on some issues.

Both of them are wide open to opposition ads. they work to an extent but people really want to know what you have done and what you are going to do.
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July 15th, 2020 at 6:36:55 AM permalink
Dalex64
Member since: Mar 8, 2014
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Quote: Wizard

Popular vote winner:
Biden -550
Trump +425


Any odds on trump pardoning himself?
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July 15th, 2020 at 6:44:34 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: RonC
He did ramble a bit, but not nearly as much as Biden mumbled during his speech.


Haha, no.

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July 15th, 2020 at 6:58:10 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Dalex64
Any odds on trump pardoning himself?


He has no crime to need to be pardoned for.
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July 15th, 2020 at 7:15:42 AM permalink
ams288
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Fox News is reporting that Kayne West has dropped out of the race.
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