Presidential Election 2020 Biden vs. Trump

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June 18th, 2020 at 8:18:08 PM permalink
RonC
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Quote: terapined
He has his eyes on the prize.


Does he even remember that there is a prize?

Okay...he is best in the basement. He may be able to win from there.

The problem is that these guys all have huge egos. They need to stoke those egos. Unless he honestly does not remember campaigning and the ego boost it gives having a hundred or two people cheering you on, he'll let that desire over come the good policy of hiding from view. Years and years of political work so it is in his blood.
June 18th, 2020 at 9:20:40 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: RonC


Okay...he is best in the basement.


No candidate in history has done
that and won. You win like Trump
did and put yourself out there as
much as possible in rallies and on
TV. Obama did it, Bush did it.

Hillary hid for most of 16 and
look where it got her. People
want to see you, to generate
excitement over you. So you
gotta kiss babies and shake
hands and give speeches at
state fairs. Not hide in your
basement and read off a
teleprompter.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 18th, 2020 at 9:30:21 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: RonC
Does he even remember that there is a prize?

Okay...he is best in the basement. He may be able to win from there.

The problem is that these guys all have huge egos. They need to stoke those egos.

That's Trump
Quote: RonC

Unless he honestly does not remember campaigning and the ego boost it gives having a hundred or two people cheering you on, he'll let that desire over come the good policy of hiding from view. Years and years of political work so it is in his blood.

I think most are sick of the travel involved in campaigning. Its a huge grind that wears you down.
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
June 18th, 2020 at 9:32:47 PM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: Evenbob
No candidate in history has done
that and won. You win like Trump
did and put yourself out there as
much as possible in rallies and on
TV. Obama did it, Bush did it.

Hillary hid for most of 16 and
look where it got her. People
want to see you, to generate
excitement over you. So you
gotta kiss babies and shake
hands and give speeches at
state fairs. Not hide in your
basement and read off a
teleprompter.


Quote: Evenbob
And that of course, in the US,
means less than nothing. No
candidate ever ever EVER
campaigns to win the popular
vote. I thought a smart guy
like you say you are would
know that. Take a civics 101
class sometime..



And Dementia Joe helps himself
when he speaks? He's in hiding
because he can't put a sentence
together on his own.




(Bold Added)

Which one?
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
June 18th, 2020 at 10:35:41 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Mission146


Which one?


Which one what.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 19th, 2020 at 3:48:06 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: Evenbob
Which one what.


Which one? Should he be out and about public speaking or is he better off to stay in the basement because he’s not helping himself when he speaks?

I know these early polls aren’t always a great indicator, but I wouldn’t change tactics at all while we’re still seeing double-digit leads.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
June 19th, 2020 at 5:11:55 AM permalink
RonC
Member since: Nov 7, 2012
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Quote: terapined
That's Trump


You don't think Biden has a huge ego? That would be a foolish thought. Ego is part of the whole deal to want to become President.

Trump's may be larger, but it isn't a big dick contest; it is a statement about one of the things that makes people feel they could be President.

Biden has been winning elections (and losing Presidential ones) for 40 years. IT is a part of the fabric of his life...campaigning.

I think most are sick of the travel involved in campaigning. Its a huge grind that wears you down.


They may be, but the ego boost of the cheering crowd is something they like.

He won't have to do as much as in a normal year for two reasons--

--Trump can be the best campaigner against himself

--Current conditions in the world with the virus dealio

He still wants to be out there...seeing his people...they feed off of that!
June 19th, 2020 at 11:13:35 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Mission146

I know these early polls aren’t always a great indicator,


They are an indicator of absolutely
zip. Did you learn nothing in
2016? They had Hillary in a landslide
right up to election night. Lying
to pollsters is the new American
non contact sport.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 19th, 2020 at 11:17:42 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: RonC


They may be, but the ego boost of the cheering crowd is something they like.


Comedians talk about this all
the time. They say there is no
high like the one you get in a
venue where a couple thousand
people showed up just to see
you. They want to experience it
again and again. Something
that will never happen to Biden
and only happened to Hillary
when she had 14 well known
rock bands open for Her.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 19th, 2020 at 12:04:32 PM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: Evenbob
They are an indicator of absolutely
zip. Did you learn nothing in
2016? They had Hillary in a landslide
right up to election night. Lying
to pollsters is the new American
non contact sport.


Yes, I did. That’s why I said what I said the way I said it.

As we both know, but I’m sure you’ll reiterate to me even though I’m saying it, National popular vote means nothing other than a general indicator. That said, the Clinton/Trump results v. aggregated polling were within reason, in that regard.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman