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| July 16th, 2021 at 8:52:39 AM permalink | |
| Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
"We do not even?" Assuming that I'm in favor of opening the borders, which I am, why would I want pregnant women to be prohibited from entering? I don't think requiring MMR to enter the country should be considered racist. Just because entry is otherwise mostly uninhibited doesn't mean that we shouldn't get to care about the public health, in this hypothetical. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
| July 16th, 2021 at 8:56:06 AM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 | Aside from that, if it becomes like the flu coronavirus vaccine, people won't be able to get a revised vaccination for new strain right away whenever they get cancer or scheduled for transplant. They'll likely issue it seasonally. And transplants are a permanent condition as far as suppressing the normal immune response. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| July 16th, 2021 at 8:58:43 AM permalink | |
| Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
Also, aren't you the one who is worried about the U.S. fertility rate and declining population? PICK ONE!!!! "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
| July 16th, 2021 at 9:06:22 AM permalink | |
| kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4519 |
Everything that you posted says less antibodies so likely less effective. Nothing you posted says higher risk from the vaccine. So do you want 50% protection or 0%. For you to be consistent with your position then you should be promoting everyone to get the vaccine. If you are leaving certain people out then you are just an antivaxer that picked a different point to draw the line. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
| July 16th, 2021 at 9:09:01 AM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 |
Your sophistry is showing. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| July 16th, 2021 at 9:22:26 AM permalink | |
| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4256 |
Oh I feel very protected, and I don't want the government to mandate it. Though I support private buisneses being able to mandate it as they feel.... But, I am going to use my free speech to mock people who do not get the vaccine (especially people I know for religious reasons which is beyond idiotic), if you are going to openly boast about not being vaxxed, I am going to openly call them a moron. I will never be the one to bring it up, but if you start talking about vaccine conspiracies I won't hold my tongue for long (and I have been this way Pre-Covid, even with my family, this just brings the issue to the forefront). Like, I said, for me it's long over, have not carried a mask in months, some stores will ask me to mask or leave so I politely leave and go elsewhere, I don't cause a scene.... I have not worried about it in some time.... I do have to fly in the coming weeks, and I know I will have to mask in the plane, but this is not avoidable, so I will follow the rules and mask, and be very polite to the flight attendants. |
| July 16th, 2021 at 9:31:05 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 |
Because the baby gets citizenship. Then they go back home and the baby qualifies for handouts to citizens. Or gets radicalized and is allowed to return as a USA hating adult. Simple security says no pregnant women allowed until we correct citizenship to people born here to at least 1 citizen parent. The President is a fink. |
| July 16th, 2021 at 9:41:23 AM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 |
What do you think about the legality of the government mandating it? For instance what if the disease was much worse, more mortality? I'm pretty sure there'd be blood in the streets from many of the same people who say the government can't force you to take it. (From those same people gunning people down who say they refuse to take it.) That's based on the premise that some newer infectious diseases were progressively rated worse, the "rights" outcry would also get progressively quiet. I don't know where that would start. 10% deadly, 15%, 30%? Add in something like smallpox effects to survivors and besides death, survivors end up with horrible disfigurement even when they live. Wouldn't be surprised if some of the flipfloppers would then argue, well, I don't believe in forcing it if it was just me, but I have to protect my family from dying, or some similar excuse. Then machine gun their neighbors who are recaltrant all done un=ironically. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| July 16th, 2021 at 9:59:50 AM permalink | |
| OnceDear Member since: Nov 21, 2017 Threads: 11 Posts: 1510 | Maybe a difference between UK and US and Canada advice. Cancer patients and severely imuno compromised are here are advised that they should get the vaccine but
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| July 16th, 2021 at 10:09:25 AM permalink | |
| OnceDear Member since: Nov 21, 2017 Threads: 11 Posts: 1510 | Well, I DO encourage everyone eligible to get the vaccine, subject to medical advice. My wife had to briefly discontinue imune suppressant medication for the weeks either side vaccination. She new that skipping her regular meds was an issue, of itself, and she was advised not to expect to be fully protected by the vaccine. It was all about compromise. |