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December 20th, 2020 at 11:40:45 AM permalink
petroglyph
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https://off-guardian.org/2020/12/18/who-finally-admits-pcr-tests-create-false-positives/


"Warnings concerning high CT value of tests are months too late…so why are they appearing now?"...
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December 20th, 2020 at 12:43:13 PM permalink
Tanko
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One year later, Wuhan is Party Central.

December 20th, 2020 at 3:17:07 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Tanko
One year later, Wuhan is Party Central.


Cool
I think Asian companies will do well post pandemic
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December 20th, 2020 at 4:40:45 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Overdose Deaths Far Outpace COVID-19 Deaths in San Francisco

A record 621 people died of drug overdoses in San Francisco so far this year, a staggering number that far outpaces the 173 deaths from COVID-19 the city has seen thus far. San Francisco has some of the strictest Covid lockdowns in the country yet their biggest killer is actually Fentanyl.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/overdose-deaths-outpace-covid-19-deaths-san-francisco-74823530

And that's ABC News reporting.
Lockdowns are a joke.
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December 21st, 2020 at 9:02:13 AM permalink
Evenbob
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New Study Shows Mask Mandates Had Zero Effect Nationwide, But the Lie Continues


https://townhall.com/columnists/scottmorefield/2020/12/21/new-study-shows-mask-mandates-had-zero-effect-in-florida-or-nationwide-but-the-l-n2581879
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December 21st, 2020 at 2:59:32 PM permalink
petroglyph
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KHQ Spokane did an interesting comparison, masks versus no masks

https://www.khq.com/news/khq-investigates-how-effective-is-a-mask/video_e308a1e8-b74f-11ea-ac6d-878bd6f54032.html


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December 21st, 2020 at 6:50:18 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: petroglyph
KHQ Spokane did an interesting comparison, masks versus no masks

https://www.khq.com/news/khq-investigates-how-effective-is-a-mask/video_e308a1e8-b74f-11ea-ac6d-878bd6f54032.html


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Good video for Duffman and Evenbob to watch.
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December 22nd, 2020 at 4:21:07 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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People seem very happy to blog that COVID is not an extinction level threat. Nor is it even remotely a threat that could bring the population growth to zero. It is true that COVID is not comparable to events in the 20th century like Chinese famine of 1960, 1918 flu pandemic, or World Wars.

Quote: kenarman
In the long term all the Covid deaths are meaningless to the number of deaths in the US. All the people that are dying of covid would die anyway at some time. All that is happening is they are getting counted earlier than they would have. If we consider that a large portion of the deaths are elderly the number of death annually will probably substantially even out within 10 years.


Comparing total deaths from 2020 to 2019 and 2018

Comparing the number of deaths from all causes provides insight into the level of impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Author: David Lippman (Longview News-Journal) December 8, 2020

One question keeps coming up because it gets to the heart of the coronavirus pandemic: how does the number of deaths from all causes in 2020 compare to 2019 and 2018?

According to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, more than 280,000 Americans have died due to COVID-19. But some people dispute whether those deaths were caused by COVID-19, or if those people might have died anyway, but happened to have it. Since the elderly and people with coexisting medical conditions are most likely to suffer severe symptoms from COVID-19 or die, viewers who ask the question often wonder if the deceased’s age or health was more to blame than the coronavirus.

If the numbers of total deaths from 2020, 2019, and 2018 are similar, that would mean COVID-19 has not had as much of an impact as many scientists and politicians claim. If the number for 2020 is significantly higher, the difference would largely be explained by the coronavirus.

Our source for this information is the Centers for Disease Control. In its weekly flu report, it includes a dataset that lists the number of deaths from all causes each week going back more than seven years.

Data is provided through the 48th week of 2020.
So far this year, the CDC reports that 2,877,601 people have died. At the same point in 2018, the number was 2,606,928, and in 2019, it was 2,614,950.

The number of deaths to this point in 2020 is at least 260,000 greater than either of the past two years. But that number is an underestimate because the CDC publishes data based on the number of death certificates it has received. Since it can take a couple of weeks for all death certificates to be recorded, the numbers for the last two weeks, at least, will increase as time goes by. If the last two weeks produce a similar number of deaths as the weeks before, the margin to this point will actually be close to 310,000.

Another way to see the effect of COVID-19 is that more people have died already this year than did in the entirety of either 2018 or 2019. There were 2,831,836 deaths in all of 2018 and 2,845,793 in all of 2019.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the population of the United States has increased by .48-.73 percent over the last five years. The increase in deaths to this point in 2020 is 10%, far outpacing population growth.

Therefore, we can verify that the number of deaths from all causes is up in 2020 compared to years past.
https://www.cbs19.tv/article/news/health/coronavirus/verify-comparing-total-deaths-from-2020-to-2019-and-2018/501-355b857c-e7e9-40e4-b31d-11500cbcb103
December 22nd, 2020 at 7:35:16 AM permalink
kenarman
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My post wasn't disputing that deaths are up this year Paco. I was noting that the extra people that die from Covid this year will not be 'available' for the annual death statistics in the following years. This means that the total for the future year they might have died will be smaller since they have already been counted.

Since the majority of the people dying of Covid aren't in their baby making years the additional Covid deaths this year and next will make little difference in the long term population statistics.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
December 22nd, 2020 at 11:04:44 AM permalink
Tanko
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Mainstream Media And Twitter Journalists Said A Vaccine By Year End Was Impossible

"Dangerous" "Happy Talk" "Impossible"

From the Article:

“Biden, Seizing on Worries of a Rushed Vaccine, Warns Trump Can’t Be Trusted,” the New York Times wrote.

“Trump Vaccine Chief Casts Doubt on Coronavirus Vaccine by Election Day,” was another NYT headline.

“Trump promises coronavirus vaccine by end of the year, but his own experts temper expectations,” said an ABC News headline in May.

“HHS whistleblower says coronavirus vaccine won’t be ready in 18 months: ‘We’ve never seen everything go perfectly’,” another May CNBC headline reads.

“Vaccines for Millions Ready This Year: The Impossible Dream?” speculated Bloomberg that same month.