The Coronavirus thread

Quote: Mission146

Tell them to make like Duran Duran and save a prayer. In terms of the collective citizenry of the U.S., this is our own fault. It's also the fault of the Government. In the face of mandatory shutdowns, I think some people tend to see not wearing a mask as some sort of quasi-revolt. Otherwise, I think it would be like the MMR vaccines and such...the Government would issue recommendations and most people would do them. I don't think individual businesses choosing to require masks...unless someone is a real @$$, would have resulted in very many challenges/altercations.

Well, here it is. We have seen people minding their own business in a park or at the beach hassled and even arrested. We are not allowed to eat at a restaurant. We are not allowed in some states to travel to our mother's house.

But let there be a BLM demonstration-----and "social distancing" goes out the window! In PA our governor even participated. Churches were "killing people" but BLM, oh they are not a cause of everything.

Then there was the forcing of china virus patients into nursing homes. Killing many.

So, there is zero reason to trust anything our government says to do.

Quote: terapined

WTF
I have family in Taiwan and they update me on the virus
Taiwan took this very seriously and really slowed it down.
That's the way you do it
My family in Taiwan, who lived in the USA at one time, feel really sorry for this country.
They pity us and pray for us

The question isn't about whether a lockdown can slow down the spread of the virus. The question is what does that accomplish? I believe the virus will run through pretty much the same number of people in the end. How long do we want the time line for that number of people to be. I would just as soon get it over with. You seem to think slowing it down will produce a significantly smaller number of deaths. Time will tell who is right.

Quote: kenarman

The question isn't about whether a lockdown can slow down the spread of the virus. The question is what does that accomplish? I believe the virus will run through pretty much the same number of people in the end. How long do we want the time line for that number of people to be. I would just as soon get it over with. You seem to think slowing it down will produce a significantly smaller number of deaths. Time will tell who is right.

People on the dole tend to favor being locked down forever.

Quote: AZDuffman

Well, here it is. We have seen people minding their own business in a park or at the beach hassled and even arrested. We are not allowed to eat at a restaurant. We are not allowed in some states to travel to our mother's house.

But let there be a BLM demonstration-----and "social distancing" goes out the window! In PA our governor even participated. Churches were "killing people" but BLM, oh they are not a cause of everything.

Then there was the forcing of china virus patients into nursing homes. Killing many.

So, there is zero reason to trust anything our government says to do.

I mostly agree with what you are suggesting.

However, while some healthcare experts work for the Government, most do not, and unless they're notorious snake oil peddlers...they seem pretty generally in agreement that we should be doing masks and social distancing.

Like I said, I blame the far reaches of both sides for this even being a political thing in the first place. I blame them for basically whatever happens. Sweden also...didn't exactly do the nursing home thing, but also didn't quarantine the nursing homes, they said that's really the only thing they'd have done differently.

Anyway, the far ends of the political spectrum created a situation in which each side hates whatever the opposite thinks might be a good idea. You ALSO need people coming together to accomplish a common objective for something like this...which is the exact opposite of what your boy Trump is good at doing.

I also blame some Libertarians who think that the mask-wearing is an us v. the Government thing rather than doing something for the greater social good...not to mention in accordance with the Non-Aggression Principle. Of course, most of them would agree that the concept of free association confers upon a business the right to say that masks must be worn on premises.

That's not true of all Libertarians, of course. Some Libertarians, I think, are actually just Communist-leaning Socialists without even knowing it who think the concept of private property shouldn't even be a thing. Other Libertarians still hate anything that sounds like it might be some kind of a rule and thinks that Second Amendment overrides property rights and they should be allowed to carry in any business, even those businesses who do not wish for guns to be on the premises.

Quote: kenarman

The question isn't about whether a lockdown can slow down the spread of the virus. The question is what does that accomplish? I believe the virus will run through pretty much the same number of people in the end. How long do we want the time line for that number of people to be. I would just as soon get it over with. You seem to think slowing it down will produce a significantly smaller number of deaths. Time will tell who is right.

It probably would, but who cares?

I think people should do the masks and the social distancing and hope for the best. As far as the hospitals are concerned, when they're full, they're full; it is what it is. The Government can either do the equivalent of field hospitals, or not, convert college dorms...that whole thing. It would obviously be pretty intelligent to have several places that ONLY handle Coronavirus patients, which is precisely why it almost certainly won't happen.

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BREAKING: Gov. Gretchen Whitmer toughens a requirement to wear masks during the coronavirus pandemic, mandates that businesses open to the public deny service or entry to customers who refuse to wear one.

Proud of my governor!

I like putting the onus on businesses. Make them pay if they don’t enforce the mask rules. Seems to be working in Vegas casinos, why not here?

Quote: kenarman

Actually if you want Covid to be done in a hurry then you need lots of cases like you are getting now. Get it over with. To slow it down too much will draw it out for years.

Yep, but unfortunately that's what these sneaky ass libbies want. They want to draw it out for years and destroy the economy. At that point libbie politicians will be the knight in shining armor who steps in and "saves" the people with oodles of government handouts.

They figure that since they can't use rational arguments to convince people to accept socialism, they have to resort to sneaky ass schemes like this. 🙄

Brings a tear of joy to my eye. Donny is learning the hard way that you can’t B.S. your way out of a pandemic...



But sure, hold some more rallies. Force people to come to the GOP convention in Jacksonville. That’ll help!

I don't know if it was this video where he posted it, or another one, but he said his penis has been dead for a month.

Quote: Evenbob

This guy is a friend I'll nevIer meet.
He speaks fluent Russian and Hindi
and travels around the world making
videos for a living. I've seen all of
them more than once.

He disappeared weeks ago and now
he tells us why. He assumed he was
safe because he's only 44 and in
great condition. He traveled freely
in 3rd world crapholes, rode crowded
buses/trains/ subways with no mask.
Here's the chilling result.

Quote: rxwine

I don't know if it was this video where he posted it, or another one, but he said his penis has been dead for a month.

Could you expand on that? What exactly does having a “dead penis” entail?