Democratic Nominee in 2020
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22 members have voted
April 1st, 2020 at 5:15:27 PM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12420 |
Bernie has always been an extremely stubborn man and his supporters have a cult like devotion to him. I think he’s banking more on Biden committing some unforgivable gaffe more than him dying. But yes, it’s clear he’s only staying in to be the default candidate in waiting if something happens to Joe. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
April 1st, 2020 at 7:49:40 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Clearly Bernie's statement was made when it was still believed that the candidates other than the top 2 would earn a substantial number of delegates. As it is they earned 81+55+26+7+2=4.3% of the total, making the possibility of nobody getting a majority very low. It's possible that the coronavirus will change the mixture of people who go to the polls. Perhaps Bernie supporters are more willing to risk death. Also with almost 700 delegates now up for contention on 2 June (9 weeks from today), we have the possibility that the coronavirus is still raging . The first Democratic presidential convention dates back to 1832, when Andrew Jackson was named the party’s nominee. The first Republican convention took place in 1856, with Senator John Fremont earning the party nomination (he went on to lose to James Buchanan). A contested convention takes place when the state primaries and caucuses don’t result in a single candidate earning a majority of delegate votes before the convention. When there’s no clear nominee on the first ballot, that’s when the stuff of political legend—smoky closed-door wheeling and dealing, dark horse candidates brought in—would begin. But no convention has gone past the first ballot since 1952, and by the 1970s, state caucuses and primaries became the norm for both parties, typically resulting in one candidate securing enough delegates to assure the party’s straight-forward nomination at the convention. The 1980 Democratic convention was nearly a contested one with Ted Kennedy making a major challenge to Jimmy Carter. The most serious uproar at a recent Democratic convention was 1968 when the assassination of Robert Kennedy removed the front runner. |
April 1st, 2020 at 8:41:06 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18630 | 1. Bernie's last shot at this. Might as well go to the bitter end. (Pretty sure) 2. Bernie's demographic is younger than Biden's. Biden could lose more voters to the pandemic. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
April 1st, 2020 at 11:03:13 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | As of 4/1 the Biden campaign has $20 mil, the Trump campaign has $225 mil. Bernie raised a lot but he spent a lot too. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
April 2nd, 2020 at 5:40:21 AM permalink | |
SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4157 |
Would it be legal for Trump to, say, donate $25,000,000 from his campaign for first responder masks or some other stunt that would be great publicity? Likely more effective than whatever commercials he was going to make? |
April 2nd, 2020 at 8:32:06 AM permalink | |
pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | He just needs to keep doing a great job and he rest will take care of itself. |
April 2nd, 2020 at 8:59:48 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Death tolls are never going to be high enough to affect politics. It is possible that "fear of going out to vote" will affect politics. |
April 2nd, 2020 at 10:20:20 AM permalink | |
SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4157 |
I'm not so sure. It will depend on how much blame someone will attribute to Trump. If 200,000 Americans die, everyone will know someone dead, and many, especially those in big cities, will know many. I can easily see a Trump supporter whose 45 year old wife died from COVID-19 switching. Remember, in swing states it doesn't take a large number of votes to swing the other way to affect an entire election. And how the economy is doing next November will be the key, I think. Basically mostly agreeing with you. But it is not clear. |
April 2nd, 2020 at 10:42:47 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
You are still talking about reaction about handling the disease. I was thinking of actual people dying. It is difficult for vital statistics to make a huge change in the short term. A lot of people think tragedy can stop population growth. In the US there are still 26,000 more births than deaths every week. It will take something much worse than COVID-19 to bring the natural increase in the US to a halt. |
April 2nd, 2020 at 12:23:38 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11786 |
Due to the lockdown probably have a December2020/January2021 planetary baby boom Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |