Democratic Nominee in 2020

Quote: Gandler

Quote: Evenbob

The biggest problem I have with a woman
president is women are very bad about
making decisions. Women in power like
to make decisions by committee. They like
to get everybody else's opinion before
they make a decision. That was Hillary.
That is most women. All of our best
presidents I've been decision-makers,
including Trump. Obama was not,
Obama was terrified of his own shadow.
I do not like women in high places, it frightens me.

That is a vast generalization of a whole gender....

There are countless examples of strong women leading.

A few exceptions do not change the general point.

Generally speaking men are more decisive than women. Men did not dominate the world from the beginning of history until very recently just by accident. Men generally can make decisions faster than women, and men generally are not as worried about "being liked" for their decisions.

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: Gandler

Quote: Evenbob

The biggest problem I have with a woman
president is women are very bad about
making decisions. Women in power like
to make decisions by committee. They like
to get everybody else's opinion before
they make a decision. That was Hillary.
That is most women. All of our best
presidents I've been decision-makers,
including Trump. Obama was not,
Obama was terrified of his own shadow.
I do not like women in high places, it frightens me.

That is a vast generalization of a whole gender....

There are countless examples of strong women leading.

A few exceptions do not change the general point.

Generally speaking men are more decisive than women. Men did not dominate the world from the beginning of history until very recently just by accident. Men generally can make decisions faster than women, and men generally are not as worried about "being liked" for their decisions.

You don't think men have dominated the world from the beginning of history because men were stronger physically, and didn't have child bearing responsibilities? Hard to be out killing the dinosaurs 8 months pregnant...... Maybe men no longer dominate the world because the world has gotten smarter?
As far as a political leader, I think gender is not relevant anymore. As far as a firefighter, give me the stronger candidate.

Quote: AZDuffman

"Jobs that do not provide a long term future?" Like what exactly? Here is a news flash. In the 80s I was told I would have several "careers" as the jobs would come and go as industries changed. That's life.

Speaking in generalities, I think there are tons of jobs available and many in most career fields. To me the problem seems to be that people are not willing to pick up and move to where the jobs are. Isn't the number something like 70% of people still live within 50 miles of where they grew up?

Quote: DRich

Speaking in generalities, I think there are tons of jobs available and many in most career fields. To me the problem seems to be that people are not willing to pick up and move to where the jobs are. Isn't the number something like 70% of people still live within 50 miles of where they grew up?

True, though the last part is misleading. I live close to where I grew up but moved around quite a bit. However, barring that your statement is very true. Lots of people will not even commute to the other side of town even when that commute is only 30 minutes.

I see more than a few small towns in my side hustle and always wonder why people don't get out of there. Just nothing in many places. Even growing up in a fairly bigger city you might have to go to a place where your chosen field is not so big. I might write a Kindle book on the subject.

Tom Leykis used to mention this is why many women did not move up in corporate. They were far less willing to uproot. Seen that one happen. It is a story as old as time, men go off to wherever to earn and the wife and family stay back.

Quote: SOOPOO

You don't think men have dominated the world from the beginning of history because men were stronger physically, and didn't have child bearing responsibilities? Hard to be out killing the dinosaurs 8 months pregnant...... Maybe men no longer dominate the world because the world has gotten smarter?
As far as a political leader, I think gender is not relevant anymore. As far as a firefighter, give me the stronger candidate.

Stronger physically as well as other reasons. It is what it is. Men no longer dominate because in many areas men have moved on. If women want to occupy the end cubicle and reply to emails on Sunday evening let them. I'll find a way to make the extra money some other way. They can keep the prestige whatever that is worth.

I will just go home at the end of the day and go MGTOW when I get home. The betas can play their games.

Quote: Gandler

hat is a vast generalization of a whole gender....
There are countless examples of strong women leading.
.

Countless? I don' think so. If I
said all apples are red, you could
find some that aren't, so what.
Women suck as leaders generally.
Look at Fauxcahontas and Hillary.
They are both up to their eyeballs
in trickery and deceit. Yet some
people think they would make
good leaders. Hillary can't move
without a focus group to tell
her what to do, and Warren makes
up her life story as she goes along,
tweaking it when she feels the
need. In 2016 Margaret Thatcher
was voted worst PM in England in
the last 100 years.

Quote: Evenbob

Countless? I don' think so. If I
said all apples are red, you could
find some that aren't, so what.
Women suck as leaders generally.
Look at Fauxcahontas and Hillary.
They are both up to their eyeballs
in trickery and deceit. Yet some
people think they would make
good leaders. Hillary can't move
without a focus group to tell
her what to do, and Warren makes
up her life story as she goes along,
tweaking it when she feels the
need. In 2016 Margaret Thatcher
was voted worst PM in England in
the last 100 years.

Thatcher is regarded as a great leader.

Bad PM, but great leader.

Quote: Gandler

Thatcher is regarded as a great leader.
Bad PM, but great leader.

That's one of the most ridiculous
statements I've ever heard. It's
like saying Ford is considered
a great company, but they sell
terrible cars. Ridiculous,

Quote: Evenbob

That's one of the most ridiculous
statements I've ever heard. It's
like saying Ford is considered
a great company, but they sell
terrible cars. Ridiculous,

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesleadershipforum/2013/04/08/margaret-thatcher-showed-what-true-leadership-is/


https://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2013/apr/18/margaret-thatcher-leader-failure-strong

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/margaret-thatcher-in-every-sense-a-leader/2013/04/08/6fe5dac6-9091-11e0-b3d5-067e674ea64a_story.html


https://www.iedp.com/articles/margaret-thatcher-an-appraisal-of-leadership-style/

https://www.informa.com.au/insight/margaret-thatcher-leadership-skills-of-the-iron-lady/



She is almost universally regarded as a strong leader even by people that despise her politically. Also, the fact that she was the longer serving PM in British history, makes saying that she was a total failure utterly absurd....

Quote: Gandler

.

"Margaret Thatcher – a strong leader, but a resolute failure by any other measure"

LOLOL! Ridiculous. They're talking
out both sides of their mouth
because she's dead. A PM is the
leader and the leader is the PM,
you can't be a great leader and
a shitty PM. The two go hand
in hand. That's like saying
"He was a great leader as CEO
of his company, but a terrible
failure in the job." You can't
have it both ways. Thatcher
sucked in every way.