New Route from Vegas

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October 4th, 2018 at 12:58:44 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Do you trust foreign carriers?

Egypt Air has an in-flight magazine that featured a supposed interview with Drew Barrymore. The article is full of gross grammatical and spelling mistakes and carries some bizarre statements. It seems that the interviewer attributes Drew Barrymore having had over 17 relationships to her not having had a male role model.

So far, Drew Barrymore has not yet responded on the issue of whether such a NYC interview ever took place.

Would such nonsense affect your viewpoints about the airline itself?
October 5th, 2018 at 12:09:52 PM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Quote: DRich
That is funny, I am scheduled on an American 767 & 757 next week. Hopefully they are retired by then. :)
The seats on the new 737's are even narrower than the 767 and 757's. Like 17 inches vs. 18 inches. Since 18 inches was already only like one and a half of my butt cheeks, the future is not rosy.
October 5th, 2018 at 12:31:44 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Ayecarumba
The seats on the new 737's are even narrower than the 767 and 757's. Like 17 inches vs. 18 inches. Since 18 inches was already only like one and a half of my butt cheeks, the future is not rosy.


Does narrow really make a difference in a plane? I can see pitch and recline, maybe you squeeze in an extra row for pure marginal revenue. But they are not going to squeeze in an extra aisle.
The President is a fink.
October 5th, 2018 at 2:25:36 PM permalink
Dalex64
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The 737 and 757 are roughly the same width inside. What they gain with narrower seats is a little bit of weight, many times.

The other problem I have with the narrow seats is your shoulder and arm room. A lot of people will encroach on your space over the invisible dividing line above the armrests.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
October 6th, 2018 at 4:20:10 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Dalex64
The 737 and 757 are roughly the same width inside. What they gain with narrower seats is a little bit of weight, many times.

The other problem I have with the narrow seats is your shoulder and arm room. A lot of people will encroach on your space over the invisible dividing line above the armrests.


That seems so marginal, but I guess if it lets you haul more freight in the belly then it works. But the public spoke long ago and they said they will accept being put in a packing crate to save $10 on a fare.
The President is a fink.
October 6th, 2018 at 8:16:20 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Ayecarumba
The seats on the new 737's are even narrower than the 767 and 757's. Like 17 inches vs. 18 inches. Since 18 inches was already only like one and a half of my butt cheeks, the future is not rosy.


I was under the impression that the B707, B727, B757, and all versions of the B737 had the same width
Fuselage: 148 inches , Cabin: 139.2 inches

A DC-9 had a fuselage width of 131.6 inches, but it only had 2-3 seating. The more comfortable DC-9 was the better selling jet until deregulation in 1978 meant that airlines thought they had better fuel economy with 3-3 seating.

The A320 family has a fuselage width of 156 inches and a Cabin Width of 144 inches.

A 767's fuselage width was set midway between that of the 707 and the 747 at 198 inches (16.5 feet). As that is 50" wider than the other jets and you are normally only putting one more seat and one more aisle in a row, it seems inherently more comfortable. But a 2-3-2 configuration means only 1 middle seat out of 7 vs 2 middle seats out of 6.

In 1978 when the B757 was introduced the B737 was still using the same engines as the B727 and sales were relatively poor. Although Boeing offered the B757 with a choice of engines, the Rolls-Royce RB211-535E4(B) or the Pratt & Whitney PW2000, P&W assumed that the B757 was going to be the future of Boeing single aisle jets. But in 1981 Boeing offered a new version of the B737 with a more efficient engine by Safran Aircraft Engines of France, and GE Aviation (GE) , that would eventually eclipse the B757 in sales delivering a major blow to Pratt & Whitney.
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