World Youth Day in Poland

Quote: FrGamble

So again, rescuing children from the streets or death is some insidious plot on behalf of the Church.

They weren't facing death, most of them.
The Church learned early on that getting
humans when they were very young was
the best way that the brainwashing would
last their whole lives. You have to give
them credit, it's devilishly clever. Never
trust what the Church is doing, they
always have an ulterior motive. Always.

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How dare you imagine you know the motivations of Mother Teresa..

I only know what I read from people who
were there. We're going to do this again,
really?

Quote: Evenbob

They weren't facing death, most of them.

I guess you are right some of them were facing a short painful life on the streets.

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I only know what I read from people who
were there. We're going to do this again,
really?

So again all you have is the personal testimony of people who visited saw and made up their minds. Why is this your evidence when you ignore so many others who knew Mother Teresa or were the recipients of the loving care of her sisters? Have you ever visited or worked in a home run by Mother Teresa's sisters? I have and I can tell you as someone who was not just there but really experienced it that they are all saints for what they do in caring for the poorest of the poor who have no one else to look after them.

Quote: FrGamble

I guess you are right some of them were facing a short painful life on the streets.

But most weren't.

Quote: Evenbob

But most weren't.

What were they headed for them?

Quote: FrGamble

So again all you have is the personal testimony of people who visited .

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Not gonna do it again, been down that
road with you too many times, it's like
talking to the wall.

Translation: I have no answer for you as to why I take the word of a handful of people who barely knew Mother Teresa, her work, her sisters, or the people she served over the word of the woman herself, her sisters, those who worked in the homes (including myself), and most importantly those who received her loving care.

You are wrong about Mother Teresa and you should recant your vile attacks against this saintly woman.

Quote: FrGamble

What were they headed for them?

Most of the orphans in Catholic institutions
had living parents. My own mother and
sister were given up to a Catholic orphanage
in 1930 because their mom couldn't take
care of them. They were rescued in 1934
when their dad finally found a job and could
support the family again. This has been a
common practice since the thing started,
they would take unwanted kids, or go right
to the home and pay to take them, as they
did in China. BTW, my mom hated it there,
the nuns treated them like slaves, hit them
all the time, and were mean as snakes.

This was a huge story in my family for years,
one they never tired of telling.

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Translation: I have no answer for you .

I have lots of answers and have given them
multiple times. And you know it.

Quote: Evenbob

This was a huge story in my family for years,
one they never tired of telling.

It is awful she had such a terrible experience. It helps when you share things like this that give a context to your hatred of the Church.

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I have lots of answers and have given them
multiple times. And you know it.

You have no answers and only continue to give contradictory statements and non answers based on incomplete information.

Quote: FrGamble

It is awful she had such a terrible experience. It helps when you share things like this that give a context to your hatred of the Church.

I don't hate the Church because of that,
I never even made the connection. It's
the Church's history of crimes against
humanity the I have an issue with.
It's twisted version of love, patting
you on the head with one hand
and stabbing you in the back with
the other.

People in the Church have indeed done horrible things. They have also done great things. The true history of the Church is found in its saints. how do you balance the good with the bad? Why do you let the bad things done by the Church make its teaching wrong? Do you judge others this way? What about yourself? How do you view American history? How does the bad things the Church has done make its idea of love twisted and wrong?

Quote: FrGamble

People in the Church have indeed done horrible things. They have also done great things.

Try that defense in court. Sure, judge,
I killed my partner in cold blood. But
I also worked in soup kitchens and
gave a ton of money to charity. One
balances the other.

Is this how you think?

I wouldn't say they balance but there is some mitigation of the sentence often if there is signs that this evil act is not really what defines this person. Anyway, that is neither here nor there because what you are saying is that you would like the judge to convict an organization for the acts of sinful people in that organization that are clearly repudiated by such institution. You also continue to give no credence to the historical times and the context of these acts in question.

Is this how you think?