Trump vs Hillary 2016

Quote: ams288

So you have no answer.

your response makes my point. You're incapable of understanding the answer.

Quote: ams288

Bush broke the economy on his way out the door. Can't blame Obama for inheriting a mess. And what constitutes "all modern time unemployment" and why are you choosing to use that metric?

Carter Left Reagan a mess. Clinton Left Bush a bubble. Bottom line is that job growth was plain awful under Obama.

"All modern time unemployment" would be since 1945. You cannot directly compare today to say the Great Depression because counting methodology was far different before that. So, IOW, of all the time unemployment was > 7% since WWII, half of that time was under Obama.

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Again: GWB completely wrecked the economy. Blame Republican policies under GWB, and Republican obstruction in Congress for this.

Actually, the economy was doing great until the Democrats took congress in 2006. I will place the blame there.

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Not even close to a near total disaster. Totally partisan issue. Republicans refused to do anything to improve the bill. Would only vote to repeal. Well, they'll get their wish next year and we shall see what happens to the insurance market and the number of uninsured Americans...

Well, state exchanges collapsing and 25%+ increases to me would meet near total disaster. Your mileage may vary.

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Is this Benghazi again? Or are you referring to something else? I thought Benghazi was Hillary's fault? You guys need to get on the same page.

I am talking about Hillary's email server which was hacked by pretty much anyone who wanted to try. Putin probably got her emails before she did.

Blame or credit for the economy to the president is naive, but understandable. The swings of the economy are not exactly anyone's to control, though the ground works and nudges are definitely from the governing bodies. Unless they do something massive, then the cause/effect can be seen. But in general, it's a little bit here and there that may or may not have an overall effect.

I no more thing Bush ruined the US economy than I think Clinton made it. Well not anymore. Obama's legacy will take a while, but Obamacare is a good policy that seems to have serious implementation issues. And the right will blame Obama for that, and the Democrats will blame the right, and it all goes round till it goes bust.

The Republicans have control... in two years time, they will have no-one to finger point at... though no doubt they'll try (just as the Democrats would). Claims about Trumps effect when he hasn't even sat down yet are meaningless... if the stock market is rising or falling, it's only due to exuberance of crowds, and nothing he has actually done yet.

Quote: TheCesspit

if the stock market is rising or falling, it's only due to exuberance of crowds, and nothing he has actually done yet.

Getting Carrier straightened out, talking
to world leaders, wanting to have a
pact with Russia to defeat terrorism
is doing nothing to you?

Quote: Evenbob

Getting Carrier straightened out, talking
to world leaders, wanting to have a
pact with Russia to defeat terrorism
is doing nothing to you?

Did I say he did nothing? No. 'nothing he has actually done yet' not 'he has done nothing yet'.

As ever reading comprehension is a problem for you.

Quote: TheCesspit

As ever reading comprehension is a problem for you.

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Quote: TheCesspit

if the stock market is rising or falling, it's only due to exuberance of crowds, and nothing he has actually done yet.

You explicitly implied he has done nothing.
I pointed out he actually has done quite a
lot in that the market sees where he's headed
and is reacting accordingly. My reading
comprehension is just fine.

Good news for the Right today. Joe Biden
says he will swoop in and save the party
in 2020 by running for the WH. He deeply
regrets letting the old witch have her way
this year.

Please run, you'll be 78 in 2020 and even
more daffy than you are now.

Quote: Evenbob

Good news for the Right today. Joe Biden
says he will swoop in and save the party
in 2020 by running for the WH. He deeply
regrets letting the old witch have her way
this year.

Please run, you'll be 78 in 2020 and even
more daffy than you are now.

It won't happen. Dems learned their lesson by going with the old guard this time around.

My prediction: someone no one has ever heard now will be the Dem nominee in 2020. No baggage. If this election proved one thing: political experience doesn't matter.

Hopefully it will be a minority to really through the racist orange orangutan off his rocker in the 2020 election.

Quote: ams288

It won't happen. Dems learned their lesson by going with the old guard this time around.
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Yeah, that's why they voted to keep Pelosi
right where she is. They learned nothing.

Quote: ams288

Hopefully it will be a minority to really through the racist orange orangutan off his rocker in the 2020 election.

Sounds like you are the racist for wanting to select a candidate on skin color!

We still do not know if Hillary will try to run again. With her ego she may try.