Where is FrG?
January 6th, 2016 at 2:29:03 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
It's impossible to read the NT without the context of an interpreter. It's so vague, and contradicts itself so many times. My current fave question now is, say, what the heck happened to all those Jewish saints that came flying out of their tombs and graves when Jesus was resurrected? How comes nobody ever wants to talk about that. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 6th, 2016 at 6:51:08 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Probably because it is not the main point of the story and as you have pointed out is not as historically verified as the main even of the Resurrection itself. It is present in one of the Gospels to show the power of the Resurrection. Trying to read too much into it is a failure in appropriate hermeneutics and goes against the tradition of the Church Fathers and early Christians who also did not talk about it all that much for probably the same reasons you mentioned. I am glad you realize the need for help in interpreting the Scriptures. You also seem keenly aware of the what happens when we interpret Scripture according to our own thoughts, we end up with all kinds of differing opinions based on what we want Scripture to say and not what it really does. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
January 6th, 2016 at 7:30:22 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
It makes no sense without somebody putting their spin on it. In other words, it's useless, why bother with it if you have to make things up to fill in the blanks. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 6th, 2016 at 8:10:33 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | You are exaggerating again. Like how all these Christians agree on the interpretation of a vast majority of the Bible so the Bible itself is intelligible for those even with a elementary level of education. When you encounter difficult texts or parts you seek help, like you would in reading anything. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
January 15th, 2016 at 10:50:18 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Especially with Exodus, since the Jews have declared their own book a myth, a bunch of made up stories. Not only is there zero physical proof any of the things in Exodus happened, it flies in the face of what written records we have. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 15th, 2016 at 8:20:30 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Um, you should probably check with Jews before making such a huge statement. You should also probably check with other written sources of history and archeology. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
January 15th, 2016 at 9:11:38 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Judaism/2004/12/Did-The-Exodus-Really-Happen.aspx?p=1 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/staks-rosch/the-biblical-exodus-story-is-fiction_b_1408123.html http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/the-jewish-thinker/were-jews-ever-really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.420844 If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 16th, 2016 at 5:53:42 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | This too: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Egypt "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
January 16th, 2016 at 12:57:46 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Not only didn't the Jews build the pyramids, and were slaves, the Jews didn't even exist till much later in history. The whole book of Exodus is complete fiction just like 95% of the whole Bible is fiction. Facts are horrible things when you're trying to foist a religion on the ignorant. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 16th, 2016 at 5:11:21 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | The Exodus Is Not Fiction The Historicity of the Exodus Biblical Archaeology and the Exodus “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |