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| February 22nd, 2016 at 8:32:33 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
You are still missing my point. It isn't about whether or not ice cream is healthy, Or if religion is healthy or unhealthy, Or comparing ice cream and vegetables. It is about whether or not you are making a decision/selection based on facts or a decision based on opinion or desire, regardless of whether or not your opinions or desires can be backed by facts. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| February 22nd, 2016 at 8:32:35 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 148 Posts: 25978 |
Sin as it pertains to your religion: 'transgression of the law of God' That's it, that's all. I'm not going over all this again. As I'm sure you've forgotten, there is a 182 page thread where we beat this subject to death. Nothing has changed since then. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| February 22nd, 2016 at 8:36:36 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 148 Posts: 25978 |
Have you forgotten there are no facts or evidence that any religion is true? So of course it's about two things. Upbringing or desire. If you were raised in a certain faith, you generally are so brainwashed you have no choice but to continue with it. If you convert, you do it to a religion that you desire, that's pleases you. It can't be for the facts, there aren't any. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| February 22nd, 2016 at 8:51:54 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
So if you don't believe in God there is no such thing as sin? This is again circular logic. Do you not recognize that you can transgress and do transgress your own moral law or secular beliefs? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| February 22nd, 2016 at 8:53:28 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
These are not the only two possible solutions. In fact the truth is that God did not create hell for any humans to go there, it is for the Devil and demons and not meant for us. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| February 22nd, 2016 at 8:55:16 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
You may be drawing a false dichotomy here. Wouldn't it make sense that a decision based of facts or truth also is something that would appeal to our desires and opinions? The point I am making is that there are facts that should support and back up your decision, which is the case with Christianity. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| February 22nd, 2016 at 9:27:39 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 148 Posts: 25978 |
If you don't believe in Santa, there are no flying reindeer and sleigh? They're both myths, just like god and sin are myths. If you believe in one, you absolutely have to believe in the other. Sin is an integral part of the god myth, it's the glue that holds it together. One does not exist without the other, not possible. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| February 22nd, 2016 at 9:39:31 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 148 Posts: 25978 |
And yet the myth says humans do go there. The myth god could stop it and he doesn't. That's kind of monstrous, who would want a god like that. If the myth god really loved ALL his creation, nobody would ever go to hell. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| February 22nd, 2016 at 9:41:30 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 148 Posts: 25978 |
We need real facts, not the ones you've talked yourself into so you can be a believer. You have no facts at all, just guesswork and supposition. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| February 22nd, 2016 at 9:54:16 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22942 | Hell doesn't make sense as a just (as in justice) action on any level no matter who ends up there. One can only assume, they couldn't impress non-believers with a more mild limited hell, so they basically went way beyond the scope of actual justice. "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |