Simple question?

Quote: FrGamble

in fact often Catholic agencies were by far the best agencies in placing and finding homes for children.

Do they place kids in Protestant homes? Mormons? Atheists?

Of course! No body is discrimating here. It has nothing to do with what these parents do in their bedrooms or what they do on Sunday. Are they the best possible home for the child, that is the question? Why does the government decide that this question can't be answered by saying that all things being equal a mom and a dad is better than say a single parent or a same-sex couple?

Quote: FrGamble

Why does the government decide that this question can't be answered by saying that all things being equal a mom and a dad is better than say a single parent or a same-sex couple?

"He but repeats the offense."

Look, however you try to defend your position, you keep saying same sex couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt children. You're not even saying they should be considered a last resort, which is plenty discriminatory already.

Your repeated statements that of course same sex couples can be great parents, merely adds insult to the injury you're already doing. You're being hypocritical as well as homophobic holding that position. And since you never answer the basic conundrum put up, you also come across as implying that Catholics shouldn't sully themselves by helping to place a child with same sex parents.

Quote: FrGamble

Of course!

So atheists are better parents than same
sex parents? That's just nuts. People
are people no matter their religious or
sexual orientation. That you would even
be connected with such a biased organization
is bothersome.

Quote: Nareed

Look, however you try to defend your position, you keep saying same sex couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt children.

I have never said that.

Your repeated statements that of course same sex couples can be great parents, merely adds insult to the injury you're already doing. You're being hypocritical as well as homophobic holding that position.

Quote: Evenbob

So atheists are better parents than same
sex parents? That's just nuts. People
are people no matter their religious or
sexual orientation. That you would even
be connected with such a biased organization
is bothersome.

That you are so biased is beyond bothersome!

People are people no matter their religious or sexual orientation, that is true. However, these equal people also happen to be male and female and while it doesn't alter their equality in one iota it makes a difference fundamentally to who they are. Mothers and Fathers have different important roles in raising children that they are naturally best suited for.

Quote: FrGamble

I have never said that.

Than why is it wrong for a catholic charity to place a child with a same sex couple? Is it because the gostak distims the doshes?

Quote: FrGamble

Why is it homophopic to say that a mom and dad is a better situation for a child to grow up in than with two men or two women?

A broad generalization like that is often not true, and certainly no applicable without other considerations. Suppose you had two men with good, stable jobs, plenty of free time to spend with the children, etc. Overall very fit to be good parents. Weighed against, let us say, an alcoholic man with a history of violence married to a drug-addict who's hardly ever home and hardly ever sober, you're saying the straight couple is a better choice as adoptive parents because they are " a mom and dad" rather than two men or two women.

No, there's nothing discriminatory or homophobic about that.

Quote: Nareed

A broad generalization like that is often not true, and certainly no applicable without other considerations. Suppose you had two men with good, stable jobs, plenty of free time to spend with the children, etc. Overall very fit to be good parents. Weighed against, let us say, an alcoholic man with a history of violence married to a drug-addict who's hardly ever home and hardly ever sober, you're saying the straight couple is a better choice as adoptive parents because they are " a mom and dad" rather than two men or two women.

Come on, does anyone really need to answer that straw man reduction to absurdity argument you just presented?

All things being equal a mom and a dad provide the best possible placement for a child in need of adoption.

Quote: FrGamble

Come on, does anyone really need to answer that straw man reduction to absurdity argument you just presented?

It's perhaps a bit reductio in the extremes chosen, but all broad generalizations are wrong because they all admit of exceptions.


Now, stop squirming and answer this: why is it wrong for a catholic charity to help place a child with suitable same sex parents?