Terrible, horrible attack in Paris

Quote: terapined

Why leave out the biggie
North Korea
Oh, no Muslims in the worst country on the planet :-)

Once again you are deflecting. I never said there were not other bad places. I said most muslim societies are repressive, unlivable hell-holes. You have never done a thing to disprove this point. You either show a rare exception or say how other places are bad as well. Basically you are not trying to deny the point.

Quote: AZDuffman

Once again you are deflecting. I never said there were not other bad places. I said most muslim societies are repressive, unlivable hell-holes. You have never done a thing to disprove this point. You either show a rare exception or say how other places are bad as well. Basically you are not trying to deny the point.

Lewiston ME :-)

Quote: AZDuffman

Muslims have made a hell hole of pretty much every place they live.

It's the same with blacks. 30 years ago
when I had the cab co, there were no
blacks on the west side at all. It was
mostly families of Polish and German
immigrants that came here at the turn
of the last century. Nice 80 and 90
and hundred year old homes, never
had any problems picking up fares there.

Then the blacks stared renting apartments
there. Slowly but surely, the crime rate
went up. Slowly but surely whites started
moving away and property values
plummeted. Today, you can't go into the
west side at night if you're white, unless
you want trouble. It's a ghetto now, just
like the south side that got ghettoized
from 1900 on.

We are seeing a divide in Faith based laws regarding NC GA ect
On one side you have the conservative Christians
On the other side you have businesses

In a way this also applies to Muslims
On one side we have hateful posts against Muslims by a few conservatives on this board
On the other side is business and I am booking travel for Muslim executives and engineers
Due my job and the business I am in, I cant hate
I deal with a lot of Muslims on my job.
Its pretty obvious by their names
In the business world, you treat all clients with respect including Muslim executives, engineers and interviewees which I book a lot
My comment about me living in the real world is in regard to actually having business dealings with Muslims
My job requires me not to hate any group.
Its business.
Hate is bad for business therefore in order to keep my job, I cant hate.

Lets say you run Boeing. You cant be anti-Muslim running Boeing

Concerning muslims and business:

Are there any major corporations that are Muslim owned, other than airlines obviously connected with Islamic countries.

I saw some applesauce jars the other day and the label was Musselmans .... an 1800 term for MOSLEMS, particularly those from Northern Africa who preyed on American shipping.

Quote: Fleastiff

Concerning muslims and business:

Are there any major corporations that are Muslim owned, other than airlines obviously connected with Islamic countries.

In Europe the Q-8 gasoline station chain. In the USA some refineries. Not much I know of at a consumer level.

Quote: Fleastiff

Concerning muslims and business:

Are there any major corporations that are Muslim owned, other than airlines obviously connected with Islamic countries.

I saw some applesauce jars the other day and the label was Musselmans .... an 1800 term for MOSLEMS, particularly those from Northern Africa who preyed on American shipping.

My clients company with an international workforce does business with many of the huge Muslim companies below
Its a big planet with a large portion Muslim
It would be corporate suicide to ignore Muslim companies when conducting international business


Rank, name , Country, revenue in millions, primary ownership, sector, industry
1 Saudi Arabian Oil Company (Aramco) Saudi Arabia $365,204 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
2 National Iranian Oil Company Iran $110,000 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
3 Kuwait Petroleum Corp. Kuwait $104,637 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
4 Petroliam Nasional Bhd. (Petronas) Malaysia $79,652 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
5 Qatar Petroleum Qatar $79,423 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
6 Abu Dhabi National Oil Co. UAE $71,670 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
7 South Oil Company (SOC) Iraq $68,640 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
8 PT Pertamina (Persero) Indonesia $64,756 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
9 Sonatrach Algeria $58,793 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
10 Saudi Basic Industries Corp. (SABIC) Saudi Arabia $50,634 Listed Basic Materials Chemical Manufacturing
11 Nigerian National Petroleum Corp. Nigeria $46,474 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
12 Koc Holding A.S. Turkey $45,354 Listed Diversified Automotive, Consumer Durables, Energy, Finance, Food & Retail, IT
13 Perusahaan Listrik Negara, PT Indonesia $21,408 Listed Utilities Electric Utilities
14 Petroleum Development Oman Oman $18,358 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
15 KazMunayGas Kazakhstan $17,700 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
16 Saudi Telecom Company Saudi Arabia $14,842 Listed Services Telecommunications
17 Egyptian General Petroleum Corp. Egypt $14,563 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
18 The Emirates Group UAE $14,456 Government Transportation Airline
19 National Oil Company (NOC) Libya $14,400 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
20 Petro Rabigh Saudi Arabia $14,231 Listed Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
21 Sime Darby Bhd Malaysia $13,507 Listed Diversified Tyre Manufactring, Plantations, Heavy equip., Auto Distrib, Property
22 Sabanci Holding Turkey $13,418 Private Diversified Financial, Retail, Communication , Automotive, Chemicals, Cement
23 Pakistan State Oil Company Ltd. Pakistan $12,191 Listed Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
24 Tenaga Nasional Bhd Malaysia $11,577 Listed Utilities Electric Utilities
25 Iran Khodro PLC Iran $10,316 Listed Consumer Cyclical Auto & Truck Manufacturing
26 SOCAR Azerbaijan $10,127 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
27 National Iranian Petrochemical Co. Iran $9,678 Government Basic Materials Chemical Manufacturing
28 Saipa Corporation Iran $9,322 Listed Consumer Cyclical Auto & Truck Manufacturing
29 Isbank Turkey $9,310 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
30 Emirates Telecom. Corp. (Etisalat) UAE $8,778 Listed Services Telecommunications
31 Ooredoo (Qatar Telecom) Qatar $8,721 Listed Services Telecommunications
32 Ziraat Bank Turkey $8,271 Government Finance Commercial Banking
33 Eurasian Natural Resources Corp. Kazakhstan $7,705 Listed Basic Materials Mining and Metals
34 The Lion Group Malaysia $7,623 Listed Diversified Steel, Retail, Agriculture, Real Estate Operations
35 Saudi Electric Company Saudi Arabia $7,540 Listed Utilities Electric Utilities
36 Telkom Indonesia Indonesia $7,401 Government Services Telecommunications
37 Eczacibasi Holdings Turkey $6,867 Private Diversified Pharmaceuticals, Building Materials, Consumer Products
38 Savola Group Saudi Arabia $6,719 Listed Consumer Non-Cyclical Food Processing
39 Abu Dhabi National Energy (TAQA) UAE $6,584 Listed Utilities Electric & Water Utilities
40 Syrian Petroleum Company Syria $6,562 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
41 Turk Telekom Turkey $6,545 Listed Services Telecommunications
42 OCP Group Morocco $6,541 Government Manufacturing Phosphate & Derivatives
43 Turkish Airlines Turkey $6,529 Government Transportation Airline
44 YTL Corporation Berhad Malaysia $6,522 Listed Diversified Electric Utilities, Construction Services, Real Estate Operations
45 Yildiz Holding/ Ulker Turkey $6,255 Listed Consumer Non-Cyclical Food Processing
46 Genting Berhad Malaysia $6,124 Listed Diversified Leisure/Hospitality, Plantations, Property, Power, Paper, Oil & Gas
47 Telecom. Company of Iran (TCI) Iran $6,114 Government Services Telecommunications
48 Felda Holdings Bhd Malaysia $5,979 Private Consumer Non-Cyclical Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing and Hunting
49 Golden Agri-Resources LTD (GAR) Indonesia $5,953 Listed Consumer Non-Cyclical Palm Oil
50 Bank Mandiri Indonesia $5,925 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
51 Brunei Petroleum Brunei $5,891 Government Energy Oil & Gas - Integrated
52 Bank Rakyat Indonesia Indonesia $5,885 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
53 Societe Nationale d'Inv. (ONA) Morocco $5,880 Private Diversified Mining & Construction Materials, Agribusiness, Tourism, Financial
54 ETA - Ascon Group UAE $5,690 Private Diversified Engineering, Construction, Other
55 Saudi Arabian Airlines Saudi Arabia $5,671 Government Transportation Scheduled Passenger Air Transportation
56 Electricity Generation Co. (EUAS) Turkey $5,610 Government Utilities Electric Utilities
57 Orascom Construction Industries* Egypt $5,511 Listed Capital Goods Construction Services
58 DOGUS Holding Co. Turkey $5,486 Private Diversified Finance, Automotive, Retail, Construction
59 Bank Saderat Iran Iran $5,481 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
60 Maybank Group Malaysia $5,459 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
61 Etihad Etisalat Company (Mobily) Saudi Arabia $5,346 Listed Services Telecommunications
62 Majid Al Futtaim (MAF) UAE $5,334 Private Services Retail & Properties
63 Tasnee Saudi Arabia $5,240 Listed Basic Materials Financial, Retailing, Comm., Automotive, Chemicals, Cement
64 Suez Canal Authority Egypt $5,223 Government Transportation Misc. Transport
65 IOI Group Malaysia $5,217 Listed Consumer Non-Cyclical Palm Oil
66 Mansour Group Egypt $5,200 Private Diversified Automotive, Capital Markets, Retail
67 Axiata Group Berhad Malaysia $5,178 Listed Services Telecommunications
68 TurkCell Turkey $5,170 Listed Services Telecommunications
69 Enka Holdings Turkey $5,037 Listed Capital Goods Construction Services
70 M.A. Kharafi & Sons (MAK Group) Kuwait $5,000 Private Diversified Engineering, Construction, Other
71 Ere?li Iron And Steel (Erdemir) Turkey $4,929 Listed Basic Materials Iron & Steel
72 Bank Mellat Iran $4,887 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
73 Independent Petroleum Group Kuwait $4,826 Listed Energy Petroleum & Coal Products
74 Halkbank Turkey $4,765 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
75 Indofood Sukses Indonesia $4,665 Listed Consumer Non-Cyclical Food Processing
76 Agility Kuwait $4,655 Listed Transportation General Freight Trucking
77 Kazakhstan Temir Zholy Kazakhstan $4,647 Unlisted Transportation Railroads
78 (Zain) Mobile Telecom. Company Kuwait $4,622 Listed Services Telecommunications
79 Vakif Bank Turkey $4,612 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
80 Bumiputra-Commerce (CIMB) Malaysia $4,589 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
81 BIM Birlesik Magazalar A.S. Turkey $4,523 Listed Services Mixed Retailing
82 Emke Group (Lulu) UAE $4,500 Private Services Retail
83 Malaysian Airline System Bhd Malaysia $4,409 Listed Transportation Airline
84 Consolidated Contractors Intnl. Saudi Arabia $4,376 Private Capital Goods Construction Services
85 UMW Holdings Malaysia $4,371 Listed Diversified Automotive, Manufacturing and Engineering, Oil & Gas
86 SAMIR SA Morocco $4,366 Listed Energy Petroleum Refining
87 Gudang Garam Tbk PT Indonesia $4,310 Listed Consumer Non-Cyclical Tobacco
88 Borusan Holding Turkey $4,266 Private Diversified Manufacturing (steel pipe, flat steel), Distrib., Logistics, Technology
89 Public Bank Bhd. Malaysia $4,119 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
90 Etihad Airways UAE $4,100 Government Transportation Airline
91 Tofa? Türk Otomobil Fabrikas? A.?. Turkey $4,019 Listed Consumer Cyclical Automobile Manufacturing
92 PT Bumi Resources Tbk Indonesia $4,001 Listed Basic Materials Coal Mining
93 PT Adaro Energy Tbk Indonesia $3,987 Listed Basic Materials Coal Mining
94 Emirates National Bank of Dubai UAE $3,869 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
95 Vestel * Turkey $3,855 Listed Consumer Cyclical Appliance & Tools
96 Oando Plc Nigeria $3,700 Listed Energy Oil & Gas - Refining and Services
97 Esfahan Steel Company P J S C Iran $3,672 Unlisted Basic Materials Metal Products
98 National Commercial Bank Saudi Arabia $3,663 Government Finance Commercial Banking
99 Qatar National Bank Qatar $3,617 Listed Finance Commercial Banking
100 Kuala Lumpur Kepong Berhad Malaysia $3,576 Listed Consumer Non-Cyclical Plantation, Oleochemicals, Property

http://www.dinarstandard.com/ds100-top-100-companies-oic-organization-islamic-cooperation-countries/

15 Year Old White Danish Girl Blinded by African Muslims in Racially Motivated Hate Crime

People can keep denying it, but Houston, we have a problem.

Quote: AZDuffman

People can keep denying it, but Houston, we have a problem.

Typical conservative illogical thinking
A Muslim commits a crime not involving death, we have a problem. I read other articles, seems a poor on rich crime. Very typical around the world but still horrible.
A white conservative racist such as Dylan Roof massacres blacks in a church, conservatives shrug and double down on a racist flag

There is no religion or society that is crime free
Muslims commit horrific crimes
Christians commit horrific crimes
Jews commit horrific crimes
Atheists commit horrific crimes
Gays commit horrific crimes
Conservatives commit horrific crimes

I am aware of crime. No way I'm walking into a white red neck bar, I could end up like that Danish girl.

There is also reporting bias: cases like this get to the top of the news under the 'if it bleeds, it leads' theory and also because it involves a young white girl. JonBenet Ramsey made world wide headlines, black babies who are kidnapped or killed do not.

Bars in London and Australia often use plastic cups to avoid 'glassing' on either an individual basis or an organized shake-down basis. Its not really racial its often an economic crime.