Terrible, horrible attack in Paris

Quote: terapined

Its a Muslim hate site Don't trust anything on that site.

A bloody fingerprint from a love site is evidence; a bloody fingerprint from a hate site is evidence. A fact from a love site is evidence, a fact from a hate site is evidence. You weigh the evidence and you reach your verdict.

Quote: terapined

Just amazes me how conservatives are so pro business
yet
Hate is terrible for business

It's a money maker in the private "for profit" prisons.

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/private_prison_lobbyists_are_fundraising_for_hillary_clinton_20150724

You know what bites me? All these stats on rape, [and by the way how well armed, were those park chicks?] why doesn't the rapes that occur in mens [and womens] prisons ever make it into the figures? Rape in prison is well known, and frequent. I think there are many more male on male rapes in prison, then all rapes on the outside.

The recidivism rate for rapes on boys is 35%. In Islamic Afghanistan almost everyone gets raped sooner or later,http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html, These people have either been a victim of being raped as boys, or they know someone who has. Forcing penetration on someone or something by these people is their culture. The link shows our military personnel were told to look the other way.

It is like the scorpion and the frog, of course they rape, that is what they do.

What's worse is our government knew, and they know. It is psychological warfare. Keep the people distracted and at each others throats so they don't worry about what the master is doing.

Quote: petroglyph

Forcing penetration on someone or something by these people is their culture. The link shows our military personnel were told to look the other way..

This is something libs like Terapined
will never understand. If you want
to act like filthy animals in your own
country, that's fine. Bring it to our
society and we'll kick you in the face.

Quote: Evenbob

Quote: petroglyph

Forcing penetration on someone or something by these people is their culture. The link shows our military personnel were told to look the other way..

This is something libs like Terapined
will never understand. If you want
to act like filthy animals in your own
country, that's fine. Bring it to our
society and we'll kick you in the face.

What?
I had a Muslim DR, kick him in the face?
My clients that are engineers and executives that happen to be Muslim, kick them in the face?
I treat everybody as individuals
Why the hate against hard working people that just happen to be Muslim such as Dr's, engineers and executives?
Really sad EB

Quote: terapined

Everybody is an individual regardless of color or religion

But what you do not understand is that we are not dealing with individuals, we are dealing with a culture. Said culture does not share western values. Said culture does not live well when mixed with other cultures anywhere. Said culture when in the majority turns their country into an unlivable hell hole that treats its own people bad and non-muslims even worse.

You are so into the "I don't dare think of how a group acts" that you defend muslims against anything. You are not alone, it is common among liberals. To prove they "don't hate" the call is to keep taking even more in. What amazes me is how many here who keep defending islam yet their personal behavior choices would get them beaten, imprisoned, or killed under sharia law.

It is like a prisoner with carpentry skills building a gallows for the guards all the while saying, "I know a few guards. They are nice guys with families. They will not hurt me."

Quote: AZDuffman

But what you do not understand is that we are not dealing with individuals, we are dealing with a culture. Said culture does not share western values. Said culture does not live well when mixed with other cultures anywhere. Said culture when in the majority turns their country into an unlivable hell hole that treats its own people bad and non-muslims even worse.

You are so into the "I don't dare think of how a group acts" that you defend muslims against anything. You are not alone, it is common among liberals. To prove they "don't hate" the call is to keep taking even more in. What amazes me is how many here who keep defending islam yet their personal behavior choices would get them beaten, imprisoned, or killed under sharia law.

It is like a prisoner with carpentry skills building a gallows for the guards all the while saying, "I know a few guards. They are nice guys with families. They will not hurt me."

So if you were in my position, how do you handle Muslim clients?
I live in the real world
The International business world
Hating an entire culture due to a few extremists is bad for business
My client is an international company based in the USA with a workforce that runs the spectrum of all religions
What you don't understand is that Muslim engineers and Muslim executives deserve as much respect as any other employee in the company
That's how businesses thrive.
Its about getting the best talent for important positions in a company regardless or color or religion
For a conservative, very surprised at how anti-business your position is
Its a big planet, a big part of the planet is Muslim. These are govts and Muslim companies that are my clients customers
I don't think you understand how International business works
Successful negotiations with Muslim companies and govts regarding customers and suppliers means more jobs in the USA
Business relationships between international companies are intertwined. Many large companies in the world are Muslim based in Muslim countries.
Take Boeing, a huge American company. Boeing cant afford to have the attitude towards Muslims you hold.
That is unless you want to see American jobs go to Airbus.

Quote: terapined

So if you were in my position, how do you handle Muslim clients?

The same way I do, as I do any other client.

Quote:

I live in the real world

With due respect, I do not see that you do. To me at least I see you living in a multicultural pretend-world where one ignores reality to defend anything that comes off as "attacking'' muslims when all that is being done is pointing out reality. Let me explain my point.

I live in the real world and understand the psychology of crowds. I understand that people behave different in a crowd or as part of a group than they do one on one. For a simple version of how this works, compare the behavior of women individually vs. when they have a hen party. Some of it is unbelievable.

In personal experience, I have seen blacks have extreme changes in behavior. Same guys who are friendly and cooperative individually when put on a crew got from uncooperative to belligerent when they were in a group of as small as 2 or 3 in a larger crew. If you look at a riot, you will be amazed how many people act in bad ways that they never would personally, having a "one more won't make a difference" attitude.

Moving on, when you do get crowd psychology, good people get pulled down all the time but bad people rarely if ever get pulled up. Back to blacks I have seen on a crew, I have seen them defend other blacks to the bitter end no matter what. Seen it with women as well, defend their own, to a slightly lesser extent. Another example, not sure if you remember the infamous "snowball bowl" in NYC in the mid or late 1990s? People who might not otherwise cause trouble all throwing snowballs at the field, all because a few people started doing it.

Finally, in the real world you look at examples to see how something might work, and you are NOT special. I will use my old "porch example." I have a 2-story deck on my house. If I see 9 people in a row jump off and of them 8 break their leg I can assume if you try it then you are going to break your leg. You can say you are a good jumper. You can say some other porch will also cause a leg break if you jump off of it. Bottom line is if you jump chances are almost certain if you do then you will break your leg.

Muslims have made a hell hole of pretty much every place they live. Those that are not hell holes have extremely repressive governments. Some have both. Yeah, Bahrain might be trying to reform, but the other places are awful. When muslims settle in Western countries, they tend to ghettoize and make violent no-go zones. This happens from Dearborn to Paris neighborhoods. As they get to 10% of a population they get more and more violent and uncontrollable. They are aggressive to women, especially non-muslim women. This happens as they group up. The psychology of crowds. And as I have explained, even the muslim who does not grope the woman is more likely to defend the one that did.

That, sorry to say, is how the real world works. I live in and understand it. Please join me.

Quote: AZDuffman

Muslims have made a hell hole of pretty much every place they live. .

Huh?
Dubai
Lewiston ME

Quote: terapined

Huh?
Dubai
Lewiston ME

Maybe you need to learn what "pretty much" means:

Iraq
Pakistan
Indonesia
Iran
Saudi Arabia
Gaza Strip
Egypt
Northern Africa

I'll keep saying it, if 9 people jump off the porch and break their leg but the 10th just sprains their ankle you should assume you will break your leg. BTW: I have known guys who went to Dubai on military leave and it is hardly a friendly place for non-muslims.

Quote: AZDuffman

Maybe you need to learn what "pretty much" means:

Iraq
Pakistan
Indonesia
Iran
Saudi Arabia
Gaza Strip
Egypt
Northern Africa

.

Why leave out the biggie
North Korea
Oh, no Muslims in the worst country on the planet :-)
By the way Lewiston Me very proud of their soccer teams, they kick ass
Sports always unites :-)