Airbus 380

Quote: Pacomartin

Still no sign of pick up in production, with only 4 planes delivered in the first three months of this year.

A common error. But you shouldn't be upset they're not using cubic inches when talking about fluids ;)

Seriously, lately it seems the only difference between cargo and (coach) passengers is the former does not require oxygen.

I still get a kick out of that Texas based stewardess who says insert seventy five cents for three minutes of oxygen.

Quote: Nareed

Seriously, lately it seems the only difference between cargo and (coach) passengers is the former does not require oxygen.

I found a 50 year old military study that says the average young man is 23.3" from buttocks to knees, but the top 5% is 25.7". Now I am not sure what the width of an airplane seat is, but I am willing to but one man in 20 has is knees turned so as to fit into the seat.

But to say we can take away 2" in pitch and it is equivalent in comfort to adding 1" in width is just stupid. Why not at least be honest enough to say "partially compensated".

Quote: Pacomartin

I found a 50 year old military study

Beware. In 2003 a Beechdraft 1900D fully loaded with 19 passengers and their baggage took off and during climb out after the gear was raised the pilot lost all pitch control as the tail heavy plane stalled due to over reliance by the commuter airline on average weight charts for people and suitcases.

Quote: Pacomartin

Why not at least be honest enough to say "partially compensated".

Marketing.

I wonder whether the Golden Age of Jet Travel is long gone, or it has just begun.

Lufthansa has just filled it's entire order of A380's. It is the first European carrier and the fifth airline overall to fill it's entire order.

14 LUFTHANSA
10 KOREAN AIR
6 MALAYSIA AIRLINES
6 THAI AIRWAYS INTERNATIONAL
5 CHINA SOUTHERN AIRLINES COMPANY

AF and BA have both ordered a dozen of the airframe, and have the following numbers delivered
10 AIR FRANCE
9 BRITISH AIRWAYS

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Emirates is flying the A380 to the following Northern America cities
New York (JFK) | Toronto | Dallas | San Francisco | Houston | Los Angeles

Outside of JFK which has 4X daily A380 flights (including the controversial one that stops in Milan), all other airports are 1X daily

Emirates is flying the B777 to the following Northern America cities
Orlando (new destination) | Chicago | Seattle | Boston | Washington Dulles (approved for handling A380)

Presumably Emirates will changeover the Dulles flight to an A380 when they get more deliveries. Boston has just approved a $30 million up grade to handle the A380

Chicago, Seattle, and Orlando have no immediate plans to make modifications to handle the A380
Emirates Adds Second Daily Dubai To Seattle Flight
Emirates has elected add a second B777 flight to Seattle.

Atlanta and Miami are the remaining two USA airports approved to handle the A380 where Emirates is not serving .

I know they are interested in Mexico city, but given the distance, the altitude, and the congestion it may not happen until a new airport is built. At 8900 miles from Dubai to Mexico City it would be the longest commercial flight in the world (passing SYD-DFW). Given the altitude of MEX, the jet would probably have to stop in Europe on the flight towards Dubai to refuel.

Uh, this "modifications" stuff........ is that painting a new white line on the terminal apron area near those movable gantries where the self-loading freight boards the aircraft?

Quote: Fleastiff

. is that painting a new white line on the terminal apron area near those movable gantries where the self-loading freight boards the aircraft?

I suppose the amount of work depends on the current airport configuration Massport recently approved a $30 million upgrade of Terminal E. Officials say the project includes a reconfiguration of three gates to allow for new jet bridges and additional departure level holding rooms and deplaning areas.
Aircraft taxi lanes also will be modified to fit the aircraft, which is about 79 feet high and 262 feet wide. By contrast, the Boeing 747 is about 62 feet high and 210 feet wide.

But the biggest modification is being able to reach the upper deck rather than load at the lower deck and requiring people to walk up stairs.

Several international carriers that service the airport are using the A380. But Boston is only 2889 miles from Shannon, well within the range of a 737 Next Generation
(-600/-700/-800/-900ER). So even though you don't think of Boston as a huge gateway city, they actually have a reasonably large collection of flights from around the world, and are anxious to handle the larger plane.


Emirates Dubai-International
El Al Tel Aviv-Ben Gurion (begins June 28, 2015)
Turkish Airlines Istanbul–Atatürk

Hainan Airlines Beijing-Capital, Shanghai-Pudong (begins June 20, 2015)
Japan Airlines Tokyo-Narita
Cathay Pacific Hong Kong (begins May 2, 2015)

Iberia Seasonal: Madrid
Icelandair Reykjavík–Keflavík
Swiss International Air Lines Zürich
Lufthansa Frankfurt, Munich
SATA International Lisbon, Ponta Delgada, Terceira
WOW Air Seasonal: Reykjavík–Keflavík
Aer Lingus Dublin/Shannon
Air France Paris–Charles de Gaulle
British Airways London–Heathrow
Virgin Atlantic London–Heathrow
Delta Air Lines Amsterdam, London–Heathrow Seasonal: Cancún, Paris–Charles de Gaulle, Providenciales, Nassau


Aeromexico Mexico City (begins June 1, 2015)
Copa Airlines Panama City
JetBlue Airways Aruba, Cancún, Punta Cana, Santiago de los Caballeros, Santo Domingo Seasonal: , Bermuda, Grand Cayman, Liberia (CR), Montego Bay, Port-au-Prince (begins June 17, 2015), Providenciales, Puerto Plata, , St. Lucia, St. Maarten, St. Thomas
American Airlines Seasonal: Cancún, Montego Bay, Providenciales, Punta Cana B
Air Canada Toronto–Pearson,Halifax, Montréal–Trudeau, Ottawa
Porter Airlines Toronto–Billy Bishop
Alitalia Rome-Fiumicino
American Airlines Seasonal: Paris–Charles de Gaulle
Apple Vacations operated by Icelandair Seasonal: Cancún, Punta Cana

Wall Street Journal...... one hour ago.... A380 Ten Years Weak Market.

Quote: Fleastiff

Wall Street Journal...... one hour ago.... A380 Ten Years Weak Market.

That's right April 27, 2005 was the first flight. Of course, Airbus only had about 120 orders by the first flight, whereas Boeing had over 1000 orders for Dreamliners by the first flight.

On 19 December 2000, the supervisory board launched the A380, with 50 firm orders from six launch customers. Had it been a year later (post 911) they may never have launched the program.