Gun Control

June 3rd, 2023 at 7:06:21 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Tanko
You still don't get it.

Ending bulk gun sales is not the same as banning guns.

It makes it harder for criminals to obtain firearms illegally.



What you don’t get is that the criminals are the problem not the guns.
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June 3rd, 2023 at 3:37:47 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: AZDuffman
No, it’s a valid statement. A ridiculous statement is liberal whining that there would not be the gun violence in Democrat run cities if only “the republicans would pass gun laws.


If criminals don't care about laws, why do they run from the police?
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 3rd, 2023 at 6:36:20 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: DRich
If criminals don't care about laws, why do they run from the police?


Gee maybe because they do not want to go to prison?
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June 3rd, 2023 at 8:19:04 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: AZDuffman
Gee maybe because they do not want to go to prison?


Wouldn't that be because of the laws?
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 4th, 2023 at 2:36:59 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: DRich
Wouldn't that be because of the laws?


I think you need to learn how criminals think. Prison is the same risk to them as a loss is to a pro sports bettor. Both try to minimize the risk, but it is what they do. A gun law will not bother a criminal. They will just find the best ways to break it with the least chance of getting caught.

If laws stopped criminals we would not need cops.
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June 4th, 2023 at 3:39:30 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
I think you need to learn how criminals think. Prison is the same risk to them as a loss is to a pro sports bettor. Both try to minimize the risk, but it is what they do. A gun law will not bother a criminal. They will just find the best ways to break it with the least chance of getting caught.

If laws stopped criminals we would not need cops.


Gun laws do work. Specifically laws that make possessing an illegally obtained gun a long jail sentence or carrying improperly a long jail sentence, these absolutely lower the rate of gang members from running around with guns.

And, these should not be laws the right opposes. Because these would not effect 'good guys with a gun".
June 4th, 2023 at 6:18:12 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: AZDuffman
I think you need to learn how criminals think. Prison is the same risk to them as a loss is to a pro sports bettor. Both try to minimize the risk, but it is what they do. A gun law will not bother a criminal. They will just find the best ways to break it with the least chance of getting caught.

If laws stopped criminals we would not need cops.


Exactly, if there were no laws there would be no risk so they would do it more often. Hence the proof that laws work to help deter crime and criminals are aware of it. Thank you for making the case that criminals do care about laws.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 4th, 2023 at 6:29:22 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Guns prevent crime.

If I were a house robber, I'd hit the ones without guns.


We could see it with Trump.

He beefed up the military with a bunch of cash.

His show of strength, both mentally and financially, is what kept peace.


As soon as the election was stolen, Putin knew Biden was the opposite.

But not only Putin.

Many countries of the world knew.


They didn't want to mess with Trump.


It's like Obama apologizing to the world.

They knew Obama was weak.
June 4th, 2023 at 2:10:57 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: DRich
Exactly, if there were no laws there would be no risk so they would do it more often. Hence the proof that laws work to help deter crime and criminals are aware of it. Thank you for making the case that criminals do care about laws.


I think you need to work on your reading comprehension.

Laws keep honest people honest.
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June 4th, 2023 at 2:12:59 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
Gun laws do work. Specifically laws that make possessing an illegally obtained gun a long jail sentence or carrying improperly a long jail sentence, these absolutely lower the rate of gang members from running around with guns.

And, these should not be laws the right opposes. Because these would not effect 'good guys with a gun".


Those on the right generally do not oppose such laws. Those on the left do, though. They will say they "affect minorities" or some other thing. You go after gang members and they whine about "profiling." So they are getting the neighborhoods they say they want.
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