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August 8th, 2019 at 12:13:19 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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UK. Japan, Australia


Chicago, Memphis, DC.
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August 8th, 2019 at 12:58:16 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: terapined
UK. Japan, Australia


Thanks for illustrating the problem. You and everyone are assuming something that is not true. Look into it deeper. If #of guns = # of killings then the .5X # of guns should equal .5 X # of kilings. This is not even close to the true stats. Spend some time thinking for yourself.
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August 8th, 2019 at 1:02:14 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Spend some time thinking for yourself.


Guffaw.. You're hilarious.
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August 8th, 2019 at 1:14:40 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: kenarman
Thanks for illustrating the problem. You and everyone are assuming something that is not true.


?????
Don't need a math formula.
Its simple
Did murders increase or decrease in Australia after guns were banned
they decreased
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August 8th, 2019 at 1:46:33 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: AZDuffman
Chicago, Memphis, DC.


The customs and border patrol around those cities must be doing a horrible job of keeping the guns out.
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August 8th, 2019 at 2:19:04 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Dalex64
The customs and border patrol around those cities must be doing a horrible job of keeping the guns out.


What do you mean? They have extreme gun control laws.
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August 8th, 2019 at 3:28:35 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: AZDuffman
What do you mean? They have extreme gun control laws.


And anyone can freely cross into those cities with no threat of inspection or penalty.

But I know you are just being obtuse.

You want a real comparison between the gun control laws of a city and a country, inspect everything going in and out, or expand the laws nationwide and confiscate whatever it is that they have deemed illegal.

Then you can start a more apples-to-apples comparison about the effectiveness of extreme gun control laws.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
August 8th, 2019 at 3:52:34 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Dalex64
And anyone can freely cross into those cities with no threat of inspection or penalty.


So you are saying that people intent on shooting people do not worry about gun control laws?

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You want a real comparison between the gun control laws of a city and a country, inspect everything going in and out, or expand the laws nationwide and confiscate whatever it is that they have deemed illegal.


A checkpoint? Like they had in East Germany?
The President is a fink.
August 8th, 2019 at 4:24:34 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: terapined
?????
Don't need a math formula.
Its simple
Did murders increase or decrease in Australia after guns were banned
they decreased


"The use of guns features in only 14% of homicides. The two leading causes of homicide are stab wounds (38%) and beatings (25%).

This trend is supported by longer-term Australia Bureau of Statistics data that shows the use of firearms in homicides remains at historically low levels. In contrast, UN data indicates that about 40% of global homicides are caused by firearms.

Of note is that the use of firearms in homicides in Australia has increased since a low in 2005.

Only 16% of homicide incidents between 2012 and 2014 came following, or in the process of, committing another crime. The most common offences that later led to a homicide were robbery, sexual assault, and break-and-enter." Australian Institute of Criminology.

As usual don't let the facts get in the way of your 'truths".
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August 8th, 2019 at 4:30:55 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: AZDuffman
So you are saying that people intent on shooting people do not worry about gun control laws?

A checkpoint? Like they had in East Germany?


Are you saying there should be no restrictions on any arms at all?

Howabout a checkpoint, at the borders of our country, with uniform strict gun control laws within?
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan