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November 13th, 2019 at 1:45:29 PM permalink

rxwine

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Quote: SOOPOO
And I AGREE with you that it was not proper. And as is often with DJT, the wrong way to go about things. But I don't want him impeached over this. As stated, let the American people decide if he is fit to stay in office, not a bunch of political hacks with their own personal agendas. It's one year away.

I do not consider what he did a real danger to the country. No 'high crime or misdemeanor'. Sleazy, perhaps. Frankly, not as sleazy as calling an officer a Russian puppet. If HRC was President I wouldn't want her impeached over it....

Why should I care if it’s February 2020 to impeach him? If I think he deserves it and I already think he earned it from the Mueller Report obstruction.

Impeachment is also part of our Constitution.

Meant 2021 Edit

You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

November 13th, 2019 at 2:34:30 PM permalink
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011	Quote: Dalex64 the process is informing the American public about this particular improper action What action, I saw no crime talked about today. When is that coming up? If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

November 13th, 2019 at 2:57:59 PM permalink
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762	Quote: Evenbob What action, I saw no crime talked about today. When is that coming up? Quote: The Founders made clear that an impeachable or convictable offense need not be a crime. Hamilton said it applied to 'the misconduct of public men.' You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

November 13th, 2019 at 3:34:18 PM permalink
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011	Quote: rxwine .offense need not be a crime And that's why we've had so many impeached presidents. Oh, wait. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

November 13th, 2019 at 3:48:58 PM permalink

rxwine

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Quote: Evenbob
And that's why we've had so many
impeached presidents. Oh, wait.

No need to impeach most Presidents. Trump is a knucklehead to even be in this situation. And so was Nixon and Clinton. Clinton got into a tricky situation, but I don't give him any credit for not thinking through the possible repercussions he was risking before he ended up committing perjury.

You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

November 13th, 2019 at 4:03:31 PM permalink
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011	Quote: rxwine No need to impeach most Presidents. . No need to impeach this one. This is the most ridiculous political stunt in my lifetime. The Dems are making complete fools of themselves, all because Hillary lost. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

November 13th, 2019 at 5:07:11 PM permalink

fleaswatter

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Quote: rxwine

In your reply to EB, you quoted the following:

"The Founders made clear that an impeachable or convictable offense need not be a crime. Hamilton said it applied to 'the misconduct of public men.'

In addition to what you quoted from Hamilton, Hamilton also said the following about impeachment later in the same paragraph:

(emphasis is mine)

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In many cases it will connect itself with the pre-existing factions, and will enlist all their animosities, partialities, influence, and interest on one side or on the other; and in such cases there will always be the greatest danger that the decision will be regulated more by the comparative strength of parties, than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt.

What is happening today is the "danger" Hamilton was concerned about.

Let's go Brandon

November 13th, 2019 at 5:23:35 PM permalink

rxwine

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Quote: fleaswatter
In your reply to EB, you quoted the following:

"The Founders made clear that an impeachable or convictable offense need not be a crime. Hamilton said it applied to 'the misconduct of public men.'

In addition to what you quoted from Hamilton, Hamilton also said the following about impeachment later in the same paragraph:

(emphasis is mine)

Quote:
In many cases it will connect itself with the pre-existing factions, and will enlist all their animosities, partialities, influence, and interest on one side or on the other; and in such cases there will always be the greatest danger that the decision will be regulated more by the comparative strength of parties, than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt.

What is happening today is the "danger" Hamilton was concerned about.

You can use that argument to indict the Republicans, not just the Democrats. Because the Republicans have the strength in the Senate to let the President off the hook.

You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

November 13th, 2019 at 5:24:24 PM permalink
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227	Congressional Misconduct Database https://www.govtrack.us/misconduct "voting is the definition of insanity" The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW

November 13th, 2019 at 5:24:51 PM permalink
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762	Quote: Evenbob No need to impeach this one. This is the most ridiculous political stunt in my lifetime. The Dems are making complete fools of themselves, all because Hillary lost. You're the biggest HIllary promoter on the board, bar none. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

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