Iran..

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Quote: terapined1

This perfectly reflects Soopoo's view of the Iran war

Cute. I’m not saying the war was good for the US. I’m just saying it’s been far worse for Iran. By any metric you want to use.
Economy. Military. Deaths. Humiliation.
I mean seriously.. they have been shown to be at the military mercy of both the US and Israel. Both can fly over Iranian territory at will. Target ANY place or structure ANYWHERE in Iran.

SO why hasn't Iran been conquered, the mullahs overthrown and the Strait opened to mariners?

It is not our goal, nor in our best interests, to ‘conquer’ Iran. Just need to insure they do not develop a nuclear weapon. There are 100 million Iranians. They will have to find some leaders internally to overthrow their ‘mullahs’, if that’s what their people actually want. Not our job. We did help by eliminating large swath of them.
As far as the straight, as long as Iran can threaten a single tanker with its bomb laden skiffs, it will be hard to insure safe passage. It may take us inflicting more pain on Iran to accomplish that, but for now we are trying ‘diplomacy’.

Huh? What DDS Kool-Aid are you drinking? Donny and Bibi started the war to prevent Iran from having a nuclear weapon that they weren't building anyway. They started the war to cause regime change in Iran. Iran has 10,000 clerics. We going to kill them all? AND the strait is closed to mariners. None of the objectives of this war have been met, and we are no where close.

Apparently Iran has been launching strikes at Kuwait and Bahrain today.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/06/02/world/iran-war-trump-israel-lebanon

And, the U.S. is launching "defensive strikes" and "defensive operations" within Iran.

Why even pretend the ceasefire is still a thing? Is it just for the markets?

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Apparently Iran has been launching strikes at Kuwait and Bahrain today.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/06/02/world/iran-war-trump-israel-lebanon

And, the U.S. is launching "defensive strikes" and "defensive operations" within Iran.

Why even pretend the ceasefire is still a thing? Is it just for the markets?

Agree. It’s actually more a ‘NOT cease fire’. That’s where you actually ‘fire’, which both sides are doing. We’ll see if the markets go up again today, you know, on ‘optimism Trump and Iran will end the war’…..

Quote: SOOPOO

Agree. It’s actually more a ‘NOT cease fire’. That’s where you actually ‘fire’, which both sides are doing. We’ll see if the markets go up again today, you know, on ‘optimism Trump and Iran will end the war’…..

It's up to Trump to end the war
Iran ain't surrendering jack
They went through far far far worse when they were at war with Iraq
That was a brutal war with Iraq having no problem putting boots on the ground
Trump is fighting a war with one arm tied behind his back
Trump is afraid to put boots on the ground
Iran knows this
Trump can't win. He can't keep the Strait open. Regime not changing. Can't do Jack about their drone weapons production hidden deep in the mountains.
Can't force a nation from developing Nuclear tech thats over 85 years old
All he can do is kill more innocent people that will steel Iran's resolve because they never attacked the US
They lost 500k against Iraq and didn't surrender
No way Trump comes close to that number
In the end Trump will have to withdraw
Either willingly now or in November when he loses power
Iran know they can play the long game, Trump cant

Quote: terapined1

It's up to Trump to end the war
Iran ain't surrendering jack
They went through far far far worse when they were at war with Iraq
That was a brutal war with Iraq having no problem putting boots on the ground
Trump is fighting a war with one arm tied behind his back
Trump is afraid to put boots on the ground
Iran knows this
Trump can't win. He can't keep the Strait open. Regime not changing. Can't do Jack about their drone weapons production hidden deep in the mountains.
Can't force a nation from developing Nuclear tech thats over 85 years old
All he can do is kill more innocent people that will steel Iran's resolve because they never attacked the US
They lost 500k against Iraq and didn't surrender
No way Trump comes close to that number
In the end Trump will have to withdraw
Either willingly now or in November when he loses power
Iran know they can play the long game, Trump cant

Good post.

But apparently you can ‘force’ a nation to not develop nuclear bombs, either by ‘force’ or ‘diplomacy’. Does Cuba have nukes? The Ukraine? Poland?

As far as saying ‘Trump is afraid to put boots on the ground’, I think the correct way to say it is ‘Trump is wise enough to not put troops on the ground’.

Quote: SOOPOO

But apparently you can ‘force’ a nation to not develop nuclear bombs, either by ‘force’ or ‘diplomacy’. Does Cuba have nukes? The Ukraine? Poland?

Or Greenland?

Or Venezuela?

How about Pitcairn Island?

Quote: SOOPOO

I think the correct way to say it is ‘Trump is wise enough to not put troops on the ground’.

Is he though? Time will tell. Ariel Bombardment is another possibility.

Quote: OnceDear

Is he though? Time will tell. Ariel Bombardment is another possibility.

Trump and wise don’t truly fit together in any coherent sentence. But if you made me bet ‘Will Trump send in ground troops for an assault on Iran’ I’d bet the ‘no’. I don’t consider rescuing a downed fighter as ’sending in ground troops’.

Aerial attack? I don’t think we’ve fully stopped.

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Trump and wise don’t truly fit together in any coherent sentence. But if you made me bet ‘Will Trump send in ground troops for an assault on Iran’ I’d bet the ‘no’. I don’t consider rescuing a downed fighter as ’sending in ground troops’.

Aerial attack? I don’t think we’ve fully stopped.

Might it not be ironic or apt were the USA to eliminate the Iranian's nuclear program by destroying Iran with nuclear weapons?

Not that I advocate the use of nukes but hey, that's the ONLY way to stop this determined foe.

Quote: SOOPOO

Trump and wise don’t truly fit together in any coherent sentence. But if you made me bet ‘Will Trump send in ground troops for an assault on Iran’ I’d bet the ‘no’. I don’t consider rescuing a downed fighter as ’sending in ground troops’.

Aerial attack? I don’t think we’ve fully stopped.

ROTFL
Trump is now saying this may last past labor day
I still can't believe Trump attacked Iran
One thing I learned about Trump regarding this war
Never ever underestimate the stupidity of Trump
Hegseth is a warrior wannabe
On the flipside, Iran is governed by true combat veterans

The defence dept conducted expensive realistic war games back in 2002 against a middle eastern power similar to Iran
They put a sharp commander in charge of the opposing side
He kicked the US forces ass
Defence dept did not like the results so they changed the rules to make sure they won
I kid you not