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January 19th, 2025 at 2:21:14 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Something tells me you were crying like a little girl when Trump called to ban TikTok back in 2016.


I can't speak for anyone else, but it was 2020 not 2016. And, I supported it when Trump tried it and I supported it when Biden tried it. I even remember saying back then something to the effect of, "this is one of the best policies Trump has proposed, and I am glad somebody is actually addressing it."

Of course now Trump is a huge TikTok supporter (which is odd, because I thought he was anti-China, and this is one of the largest benefits to China that he can provide, but anyway.....) My guess is he got a juicy donation from them....

However, I am pretty academically consistent, if I like something Trump did I give him credit, and if I don't like something Biden did, I have no issue blasting him.
January 19th, 2025 at 2:26:22 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
I can't speak for anyone else, but it was 2020 not 2016. And, I supported it when Trump tried it and I supported it when Biden tried it. I even remember saying back then something to the effect of, "this is one of the best policies Trump has proposed, and I am glad somebody is actually addressing it."

Of course now Trump is a huge TikTok supporter (which is odd, because I thought he was anti-China, and this is one of the largest benefits to China that he can provide, but anyway.....) My guess is he got a juicy donation from them....

However, I am pretty academically consistent, if I like something Trump did I give him credit, and if I don't like something Biden did, I have no issue blasting him.


Whatever year it was my bet is most of the people screaming now were crying when he wanted to get rid of it. They just cry whenever he says or does anything.
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January 19th, 2025 at 2:26:28 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: GenoDRPh
The First Amendment doesn't care whether or not you or I or anyone else thinks TikTok or Facegram or Instabook or whatever is absurd trash and just the worst. The Amendment protects it nonetheless. However, Congress, the President and now SCOTUS has judged TT a national security threat and must be closed. So that's that. Now users a flocking to other services, including some that originate in....CHINA. These services are as bad or even worse than TT in collecting data and not protecting it from bad state actors. If Congress and the Prez were truly concerned about data privacy and data security, they would've passed a law protecting data privacy and data security. As it is, the TT ban performative nonsense that doesn't protect US user's data, and just plays a game of data protection Whack-A-Mole.

That being said, the President-elect has said he would issue an exec order restoring TT for 90 days, and TT has just said they will be coming back online to US users.

As aside, I've never used TT, but do enjoy YT shorts.


I fully agree, that is why I even said in the OP I despise TikTok but my personal taste is not a reason to ban something.

But, yes TikTok is pure brainrot content, and I am just baffled that so many people like it. I will say me hating it makes me feel less bad about it being banned. But, of course the reason to ban it is their data practices.

The whole few second videos of nonsense are just terribly unartistic or engaging. I just do not understand the appeal. And, sadly Youtube (which I actually enjoy,) since the start of TikTok has a whole "YT Shorts" thing which is a clear emulation and equal garbage (but to be fair it is pretty easy to hide and ignore it, it is not the whole platform, though if you do run a channel, they push the fact that you have to publish shorts pretty hard.)
January 19th, 2025 at 2:31:23 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Whatever year it was my bet is most of the people screaming now were crying when he wanted to get rid of it. They just cry whenever he says or does anything.


I am sure, but I even recall many Republicans hating it in 2020, TikTok seems to be rotting everyone's brain equally to the point of an addiction almost. And, then add in the many politicians that owe financial favors to bytedance....

Like I said I can only speak for myself. I supported Trump in 2020 for attempting it, I support Biden for attempting now, and I oppose Trump for flipflopping on it now to the point where it is almost certain he will backpedal everything day 1.

TikTok should be banned, whichever President supports or opposes this is frankly irrelevant, it is the proper view.
January 19th, 2025 at 2:35:54 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
I am sure, but I even recall many Republicans hating it in 2020, TikTok seems to be rotting everyone's brain equally to the point of an addiction almost. And, then add in the many politicians that owe financial favors to bytedance....

Like I said I can only speak for myself. I supported Trump in 2020 for attempting it, I support Biden for attempting now, and I oppose Trump for flipflopping on it now to the point where it is almost certain he will backpedal everything day 1.

TikTok should be banned, whichever President supports or opposes this is frankly irrelevant, it is the proper view.


The problem is not the brainrot the problem is China collecting the data. Look for TT to be allowed to continue if the collection is ended.
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January 19th, 2025 at 3:19:03 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: AZDuffman
Something tells me you were crying like a little girl when Trump called to ban TikTok back in 2016.


The "something" you allude to must be the same "something" that advises you regualarly because gee willikers are you wrong.

I know nothing of the attempt you mention; I don't tik tok.

I simply call out bull shit artists and venal convicted felons when I see them.
January 19th, 2025 at 3:28:56 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
The "something" you allude to must be the same "something" that advises you regualarly because gee willikers are you wrong.


Your history shows otherwise.
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January 19th, 2025 at 4:08:56 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: Gandler
I fully agree, that is why I even said in the OP I despise TikTok but my personal taste is not a reason to ban something.

But, yes TikTok is pure brainrot content, and I am just baffled that so many people like it. I will say me hating it makes me feel less bad about it being banned. But, of course the reason to ban it is their data practices.

The whole few second videos of nonsense are just terribly unartistic or engaging. I just do not understand the appeal. And, sadly Youtube (which I actually enjoy,) since the start of TikTok has a whole "YT Shorts" thing which is a clear emulation and equal garbage (but to be fair it is pretty easy to hide and ignore it, it is not the whole platform, though if you do run a channel, they push the fact that you have to publish shorts pretty hard.)


The appeal is to people with short attention spans, or who don't want to sit through the tedium of a much longer vid-for better or for worse,

I learned how to wire a smart light switch, fix my washing machine plumbing problems, wire an electrical junction box, choose the right type of pre-emergent crabgrass treatment, and a few other things via YT shorts. Sometimes, the shorts lead me to longer vids with more content to teach me more stuff. I use YT for education and enrichment,and not for brain rot. I hope.

Assuming TT's data practices are a national security threat, the solution is to ban the practice across the board and not to ban the app. There are TT competitors that use the exact same practices and are not banned, nor are the data practices banned themselves.

Congress and Trump and Biden are bunch of knuckleheads on this issue.
January 19th, 2025 at 5:01:49 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
Something tells me you were crying like a little girl when Trump called to ban TikTok back in 2016.


War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength, isn't that from 1984 the George Orwell book. A bunch of oxymorons strung together that don't actually mean anything but people think they do.
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January 19th, 2025 at 5:06:54 PM permalink
Evenbob
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TikTok Restores Services in U.S. After Trump Says He Will Issue Executive Order Delaying Ban
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
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