Walz's Waltz ... to a Communist 1,2,3

Quote: Gandler

This is a ridiculous point, so you are supposed to hire a secondary caretaker of somebody of the same gender just in case you are in a scenario where you have to use a public restroom?

Most caretakers are women, and most people under care are men. Should women not be allowed to bring male patients or family into the women's room?

Like so many of Duffman's posts. Using logic against his is a waste of time.

And aren't most carers spouses? I'm thinking elderly couples, but similar applies with half of single parents. There's high probability that any carer might, of neccesity, be the opposite gender as the cared one.

Is duffman advocating that spouse carers should be of the same gender as the care recipient?, so that they can go to the same restroom? That's a turnaround!

Or should loving husbands hire female assistants to take along with their disabled wives just in case she needs a toilet break? Or disabled men hire a young man to replace or supplement his wife. Who's going to pay for this?

Has duffman not thought this through :)
Rhetorical question!

I can see my wife rejecting the suggestion that I hire a fit young female assistant to help me out with our occasional needs. And I'm damned if I'm going to trade my disabled wife in for a male surrogate so that we can toilet together, just to please the duffmans of this world.

For the record. I don't give a damn who uses which toilet, so long as they use it with decency and dignity. And we all deserve dignity when using them, just as we should respect others who might be there.

Quote: ams288

Nonsense.

Some men need them to put on their ear to cover their fake gunshot wounds!

3 thoughts

* that was funny

* I am reminded of the hope that was held out to TDS folks that maybe T was not actually hit by a bullet, and how important it was to them. I am still unable to really understand that. As close as I can come is, to think of the entry in the history books about the T assassination attempt, if they could have put an asterisk in there saying he wasn't actually hit... OH! So Happy! [alas]

* I refuse to get into the bathroom debates

Quote: Gandler

This seems to be your most absurd point. Men will do understand how tampons work, and just flush them down the toilet? You know they are not free right? It is something like 25-50cent per one (and sold one at a time,) so they would be spending one by one to get a bunch, and then they would have to spend a bunch of time clogging each toilet. I do not know anyone who would do this (it would cost a bunch of money and take a bunch of time.....)

If they are not free then you will see them being ripped of the wall or gaffed so they do not work. You do not get that people do not want this genderless world that the trannys are trying to shove down our throats even though there are sheep out there who want to go along with it. I have seen it happen. One place I worked at had to lock the genderless restroom up because it kept getting trashed. People could use it but had to ask for a key.

Quote: GenoDRPh

State legislatures and governships are run by the GOP mostly, And they've been sh!t at stopping gun violence.

But the gun violence is in areas not just run by Democrats but places with few if any Republicans in government. So the GOP is doing their part. Want me to prove my point? When Rudy took over NYC it was so violent it skewed national numbers. After he took over violence went down so much that Bill Clinton took credit nationally. Ann Coulter pointed this out in one of her books I forget which so don't ask.

Quit blaming the GOP for gun violence.

Quote: OnceDear

Like so many of Duffman's posts. Using logic against his is a waste of time.

Because my logic is logic. The logic you and others try to use is "logic" made to back up silly left wing ideas.

Quote:

And aren't most carers spouses? I'm thinking elderly couples, but similar applies with half of single parents. There's high probability that any carer might, of neccesity, be the opposite gender as the cared one.

So, you are saying that elderly women being cared for by their husbands might need a tampon? Because that is the basis of how this thread got hijacked into yet another one of liberals whining that we should have genderless restrooms.

The lefties here are so devoted to their leftism that they cannot even agree that there is no need for a tampon dispenser in a men's restroom. This is how communism and fascism took hold, people just agreeing to what they were told to believe without question. As always, those following have no idea they are doing it.

Quote: AZDuffman

So, you are saying that elderly women being cared for by their husbands might need a tampon?

No. I was responding to your blanket ban on men entering ladies restrooms... As in earlier posts...

Quote: DoubleGold

And male caretakers for the females in wheelchairs or using walkers.

Quote: AZDuffman

Nope. They need to get female caretakers if they are going to be out in public restrooms.

Carers, who may well be family members of either gender need access to the facilities of the care user. Choice of carer is often limited to spouse or family member of whatever gender is available.
Now, I grant you that when taking my elderly Mum-in-Law into the restroom in her wheelchair, it was a non-issue, because some bureaucrat had the bright idea to provide genderless 'disabled' toilets. But if the venue only had separate restrooms, I'd have no qualms escorting my elderly mum-in-law into the ladies restroom. As a courtesy, I would have knocked and announced myself first as 'Male carer about to enter'. Maybe your carers have different ways, such as pleading with a female stranger to assist them. Maybe you've never been a carer or cared for. Maybe you don't realise the things carers need to do.

If I had a teenage daughter and she said "Dad, the ladies is all blocked up and knee deep in '5h1t'", I'd be happy to have her use a clean one in the gents. If I were bursting to use a toilet and the gents was full, I'd be inclined to reluctantly use the ladies room. Gender free restrooms solve all this and more.

I absolutely favour genderless restrooms, as are commonly used in the UK especially where disabled folk are catered for under the law, which is everywhere here, because our lefty governments push for equality of access for all. We bleeding heart liberals seem to have perverse ideas such as step free accessibility, just in case someone wants to use a wheelchair, or maybe provision or restrooms that will fit a wheelchair or mobility scooter.

Maybe Americans are not yet civilised enough to not mindlessly destroy them. I can believe that.

Quote: AZDuffman

The lefties here are so devoted to their leftism that they cannot even agree that there is no need for a tampon dispenser in a men's restroom. This is how communism and fascism took hold, people just agreeing to what they were told to believe without question. As always, those following have no idea they are doing it.

No need for one there. I agree. But as the cause for fascism to take hold. No. I don't buy that. I think ignorance and cult membership, generally, as portrayed in this thread and others, is far more a cause. (ANY cult)

But there's no reason not to have tampons available. Your argument that they will get vandalised, is an argument that your fellow men are unevolved morons. Maybe the righty men are more moronic, as you seem to think lefties will want to leave them undamaged.

I seem to recall a mention of the non-need to have condom machines in either gender restroom. Yeah, sure. don't have availability in clubs, bars and restaurants ( in the restroom) because any couples that meet up at such venues will make it a priority to get to the drugstore on the way home, or wherever they are going.

Damn-it. if you Americans can't be trusted to not vandalise the facilities, why not just go back to defecating in the street.

Quote: OnceDear

I absolutely favour genderless restrooms, as are commonly used in the UK especially where disabled folk are catered for under the law, which is everywhere here, because our lefty governments push for equality of access for all. We bleeding heart liberals seem to have perverse ideas such as step free accessibility, just in case someone wants to use a wheelchair, or maybe provision or restrooms that will fit a wheelchair or mobility scooter.

Maybe Americans are not yet civilised enough to not mindlessly destroy them. I can believe that.

Nah, this is just why we thew the Brits out of here 225 years ago. For every good idea like fish-n-chips there are 5 like this.

Quote:

No need for one there. I agree. But as the cause for fascism to take hold. No. I don't buy that. I think ignorance and cult membership, generally, as portrayed in this thread and others, is far more a cause. (ANY cult)

Fascism and cults are two different things, though cults can make a fascist society. Cults are a subgroup. They tend to have a narrow focus. Their followers are crazy. An example is that no-oil group in Europe who likes gluing themselves to things (probably with glue made from petroleum!) But what happens is they get followers then a few people decide that while they are nuts the cause may not be. Then they eventually demonize people who dare point out how silly what they are believing is.

So here we have the tranny community demanding their pervert male members be allowed to use the ladies room. They then convince some pols to require tampons in the men's room because they say men can have periods and even get pregnant. Then you get people who say this is true based on some weird junk science. Then you have people saying, "Yeah, their SO might need one and they can get it!" On and on to people like yourself saying how you seem to like a genderless world. All the while ignoring logic and reality.

If tampons in the men's room made sense, would building owners not have already put them in??

Quote:

But there's no reason not to have tampons available. Your argument that they will get vandalised, is an argument that your fellow men are unevolved morons. Maybe the righty men are more moronic, as you seem to think lefties will want to leave them undamaged.

It would not be about right or left. It would be about manly vs. feminized metrosexual. In fact, right leaning men would probably be far less likely to vandalize as conservatives are generally more careful about other people's things than liberals at least as I have observed. For example, lefty demonstrations are far more where you hear about vandalism. You see graffiti in the cities with Democrat rule far more than out in the country.

Quote:

I seem to recall a mention of the non-need to have condom machines in either gender restroom. Yeah, sure. don't have availability in clubs, bars and restaurants ( in the restroom) because any couples that meet up at such venues will make it a priority to get to the drugstore on the way home, or wherever they are going.

A woman looking at a hookup might want to provide a condom. I have heard of a guy who had a gas station and left the condom machine in the ladies room empty. He rarely had to refund money as women were embarrassed to say what happened. Was a nice little side income.

Quote: AZDuffman

But the gun violence is in areas not just run by Democrats but places with few if any Republicans in government. So the GOP is doing their part. Want me to prove my point? When Rudy took over NYC it was so violent it skewed national numbers. After he took over violence went down so much that Bill Clinton took credit nationally. Ann Coulter pointed this out in one of her books I forget which so don't ask.

Quit blaming the GOP for gun violence.

I certainly will blame the GOP for gun violence in those areas they govern adn for those policies they can enact to mitigate it.

And screw Rudy Giuliani.

Quote: GenoDRPh

I certainly will blame the GOP for gun violence in those areas they govern adn for those policies they can enact to mitigate it.

They have made it illegal to shoot people. How much else do you want? Why do you blame the GOP but not the Democrats who run the violent cities?

Quote:

And screw Rudy Giuliani.

Why? You like the violence of NYC in the 30 years before he took over?

Quote: AZDuffman

They have made it illegal to shoot people. How much else do you want? Why do you blame the GOP but not the Democrats who run the violent cities?



Why? You like the violence of NYC in the 30 years before he took over?

I live in MA, one of the safest states in the country. Maybe states should do what we've done over the years to make us teh way we are? And, no, making it illegal to shoot people isn't enough.

I blame the GOP because laws regarding gun control, criminal justice, rehabilitation, drug control, drug rehab, etc are all made at the state level, with state legislatures and state governors. No city in the US is a city-state, like ancient Athens or Sparta. And I dare you to tell me otherwise. Put up, or shut up.

The Rudy of 30 years ago no longer exists.