Israeli conflict

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from The Times of Israel, the leading English language news source in Israel

a very large % of the Israeli population is now taking a stand against the stated aims of the PM in conquering or taking over Gaza City

from the link -

"Close to twenty experts in international law and legal theory from law faculties in Israel’s universities sent a letter on Wednesday to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in light of Israel’s plans to expand the fighting in the Gaza Strip, conquer it entirely or in part, and carry out what is described as “encouraging voluntary migration.”

The experts’ conclusion is unequivocal: the continuation of the war in the Gaza Strip – and certainly its expansion – has become illegal and may even be considered an “act of aggression” that entails criminal liability for senior Israeli officials.

After nearly two years of fighting, when most of Gaza’s infrastructure has been destroyed, hundreds of thousands of people have been repeatedly displaced from their homes, medical services have collapsed, and tens of thousands are suffering from malnutrition and hunger, the marginal addition to state security that could be gained, if at all, from continuing the fighting – let alone expanding it – is not proportionate,” the legal scholars wrote.

"The use of force that exceeds the bounds of proportionality and cannot achieve the aim of self-defense is unlawful, and in certain circumstances even a crime, under the most severe categories of the laws governing the use of force and international criminal law,” they added.

the letter’s signatories see it as their duty to state the matter plainly and reflect Israel’s true position under the rules of international law.

But the massive violations of international law now at issue concern macro-level decisions – ones that place not only soldiers and officers in the field in real danger of arrest, but also government officials. The issuance of arrest warrants against Netanyahu and Gallant may be only the beginning.

Beyond the actions of international courts and Israel’s dispute with the ICC over its jurisdiction, several Western legal systems have universal jurisdiction. This means these countries can initiate criminal proceedings on their territory against Israelis for participation in or responsibility for war crimes, even if the victims have no connection to the enforcing country.

Some Israeli legal experts believe that, in addition to the known arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant, there are already other warrants against Israeli officials that have been issued secretly – whether by the ICC or by countries waiting for these Israelis to set foot on their soil so they can arrest them.

At this stage of the Gaza war, when Israel cannot coherently define its war aims or even create the appearance of legitimacy for its actions (etc., etc. etc.)


https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-is-committing-war-crimes-and-its-legal-heads-remain-silent/

Israel, like the USA, is "led" by an amoral crook who hangs onto political power in order to avoid prison.

What a wicked world we've built for ourselves.

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Israel, like the USA, is "led" by an amoral crook who hangs onto political power in order to avoid prison.

What a wicked world we've built for ourselves.

Lawfare in Israel same as here.

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Lawfare in Israel same as here.

Oh, I see...when the candidate you support is convicted you scream bloody murder.

Typical, and oh, so sad.

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it's really quite ironic

the creation of the country of Israel in 1948 came about partly because of sympathy extended to Jews because of their treatment in Nazi Germany

now, Israel's causation of the suffering of Palestinians has resulted in several countries calling for the recognition of a Palestinian state

France, Malta, and Australia have announced plans to recognize Palestine as a state in September 2025 at the 2025 United Nations General Assembly, with Canada and the United Kingdom stating they will as well subject to certain conditions.

it is likely that some other countries will follow along in similar fashion
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Lord Rothschild negotiated with Lord Balfour of England for the establishment of the State of Israel before WWI.

Check the Balfour Agreement.


The Holocaust wasn't until after the Bolshevik Revolution and the Holodomor so it had nothing to do with sympathy.

It was taken by power and prearrangement.


But don't stop there, keep going backwards in time to read from a non-Mockingbird source about the slaughtering of Christians.

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"While the Holocaust significantly impacted the push for a Jewish state, it wasn't the sole cause of Israel's creation. The State of Israel was established in 1948, but Zionist aspirations and the movement to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine predate the Holocaust by several decades. The Holocaust intensified the urgency and international support for a Jewish state, but it built upon existing Zionist efforts and historical connections to the land.

While the Holocaust significantly impacted the push for a Jewish state, it wasn't the sole cause of Israel's creation. The State of Israel was established in 1948, but Zionist aspirations and the movement to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine predate the Holocaust by several decades. The Holocaust intensified the urgency and international support for a Jewish state, but it built upon existing Zionist efforts and historical connections to the land.

While the Holocaust was a crucial factor, it's essential to recognize that the creation of Israel was the culmination of decades of Zionist efforts, political maneuvering, and historical and religious ties to the land. The Holocaust accelerated the process, BUT IT WAS NOT THE SOLE REASON for the state's establishment. "

as I correctly indicated in my OP by using the word "partly"

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You're on the right track, just read real history and not Mockingbird history.

as usual I ignore DG's nonsensical postings as does just about everybody else does here - although I must admit I enjoyed Soopoo's mocking of him

here it is one more time, lol:

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Stupid post that gets stupider as you keep reading.

DG knows Harris cheated on the Bar Exam….. yeah
DG thinks Harris will turn Republican. Even stupider.
DG thinks Harris’ politics is predicated on her being descended from slave owners . Trifecta!

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it's really quite ironic

the creation of the country of Israel in 1948 came about partly because of sympathy extended to Jews because of their treatment in Nazi Germany

now, Israel's causation of the suffering of Palestinians has resulted in several countries calling for the recognition of a Palestinian state

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Palestinian suffering is caused by Palestinians.