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July 29th, 2023 at 4:55:28 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
"the world's most permissive for both euthanasia and affirming an individual's chosen gender." the irresistable force met the immovable object? other requests to end pain by assisted suicide have been approved, but in this instance it might make the transgender movement look bad. Request denied ... moving on!


The problem isn't that you need a medical doctor or anyone at all to do the most advanced medical assisted suicide. The only real problem is not being able to obtain the proper equipment and drugs to do it on your own. Heroin addicts can manage to learn to put a needle in their own vein. And putting a mask or hood on might be the only other device.

People who can't move are the ones who need actual assistance. The rest is about providing proper do-it-yourself items legally. No one really knows if a shotgun to the head is better than a powerful drug anyway for that matter.
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July 29th, 2023 at 8:58:52 AM permalink
kenarman
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Some people have been doing better than others lately.

Rothschild Family Net Worth 2023 $20 Trillion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 2000 $500 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1950 $110 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1900 $65 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1850 $40 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1800 $22 Billion
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July 29th, 2023 at 11:21:01 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: kenarman
Some people have been doing better than others lately.

Rothschild Family Net Worth 2023 $20 Trillion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 2000 $500 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1950 $110 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1900 $65 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1850 $40 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1800 $22 Billion


Tale as old as time. The rich get richer while everyone else gets shat on.
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July 29th, 2023 at 1:18:10 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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Tale as old as time. The rich get richer while everyone else gets shat on.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the reason for the Rothschild family's ability to do this is due to at least some European countries allowing family control of the continuing estate. In other words, the estate is not broken up upon the death of one person and distributed but is allowed to stay intact.

this is not legal in US law, you can't dictate to your descendants how they are to handle inheritance. Perhaps the original fortune maker might try, but the estate is going to be distributed equally to 'the kids' *sooner or later* and that's the end of it as they then diminish it by not working themselves, etc, [often blowing the money] in the cases of large estates

I say I'm going out on a limb because I believe this to be true but I would have trouble citing a source

I believe those numbers are in constant dollars
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July 29th, 2023 at 2:19:08 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: odiousgambit
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the reason for the Rothschild family's ability to do this is due to at least some European countries allowing family control of the continuing estate. In other words, the estate is not broken up upon the death of one person and distributed but is allowed to stay intact.

this is not legal in US law, you can't dictate to your descendants how they are to handle inheritance. Perhaps the original fortune maker might try, but the estate is going to be distributed equally to 'the kids' *sooner or later* and that's the end of it as they then diminish it by not working themselves, etc, [often blowing the money] in the cases of large estates

I say I'm going out on a limb because I believe this to be true but I would have trouble citing a source

I believe those numbers are in constant dollars


I am not sure it is as some of the jumps in value don't work. Regardless $20 Trillion is huge wealth for one family. The Saudi family is estimated at 'only' $1.4 Trillion.
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July 29th, 2023 at 4:31:35 PM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: kenarman
Rothschild Family Net Worth 2023 $20 Trillion



Maybe in rupees. That number is from an Indian website. A Forbes article said Rothschild and Co. has assets of $20 Billion.

Other articles estimate the family worth as high as $700 billion.
July 29th, 2023 at 4:54:10 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: kenarman
Some people have been doing better than others lately.

Rothschild Family Net Worth 2023 $20 Trillion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 2000 $500 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1950 $110 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1900 $65 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1850 $40 Billion
Rothschild Family Net Worth 1800 $22 Billion


$20 trillion? Not buying that they are worth more than the GDP of China.
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July 29th, 2023 at 5:16:36 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
$20 trillion? Not buying that they are worth more than the GDP of China.


Yeah, there is no way.

Also, what is it with the Rothschilds where people group all of their wealth together? Like they are crazy rich, but as individuals they range from billionaires to hundred billionaires. If you did this same logic with the Walton family (where individually there are many multi-billionaires) they would very quickly look insanely rich (well more so then they do.)

Even very sketch Rothschild Family net worth estimates say 1 trillion (and these don't seem like the most unbiased sites to put it nicely). And, this is almost unbelievably high -maybe if you combine every family member, and every company that they have interest in- and I am not sure that I beleive that even then.

How many assets are there in the world? The annual GDP (of the world) is less than 100 trillion (which is probably less than the assets there are), but what a couple hundred trillion of global assets maybe, even if it is 10X the GDP? They would control a significant portion of the world (which I know is what conspiracists want because there is some strange obsession with the Rothschild Family which is why they are always combined together.)

According to several search results it says the Walton Family is the richest combined family in both America and the World:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kerryadolan/2020/12/17/billion-dollar-dynasties-these-are-the-richest-families-in-america/?sh=44041f7e772c

https://www.gobankingrates.com/money/wealth/richest-family-in-the-world/

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/insights/052416/top-10-wealthiest-families-world.asp

(The numbers after number 1 switch around in various lists, but Waltons are always on top nationally and internationally).
July 30th, 2023 at 2:45:42 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
Yeah, there is no way.

Also, what is it with the Rothschilds where people group all of their wealth together? Like they are crazy rich, but as individuals they range from billionaires to hundred billionaires. If you did this same logic with the Walton family (where individually there are many multi-billionaires) they would very quickly look insanely rich (well more so then they do.)


Actually I do see the Walton's wealth rated by group instead of individuals in most cases. This is just how it works with some families, the Fords are another. Some families just end up this way.
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July 30th, 2023 at 2:57:12 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: kenarman
The Saudi family is estimated at 'only' $1.4 Trillion.


There are 15,000-20,000 members of the Saudi Royal family. Including at least 4,000 princes.