General Election 2024

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December 6th, 2023 at 6:37:15 PM permalink
rxwine
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Christie said Ramaswamy would win 'greatest blowhard in 'America."
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December 6th, 2023 at 6:50:03 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: rxwine
Christie said Ramaswamy would win 'greatest blowhard in 'America."


No lie detected.
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December 6th, 2023 at 6:50:29 PM permalink
rxwine
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That was a good dig by Haley. DeSantis said her Wall street liberal donors were supporting her and would make her do business with China. Haley - those were your donors before they left you.
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December 6th, 2023 at 6:59:02 PM permalink
rxwine
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I'm going to skip the rest of the debate, and fast forward to the analysis. I got a late start on watching the DVR recording.
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December 6th, 2023 at 7:51:39 PM permalink
kenarman
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I think I have finally figured out what's up with all the progressives, they are James Joyce fans "Let my country die for me." Ulysses
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
December 7th, 2023 at 4:40:52 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: kenarman
I think I have finally figured out what's up with all the progressives, they are James Joyce fans "Let my country die for me." Ulysses


I disagree. I think most actually believe that their ideas are good for the country. In most cases they are just wrong. But most are not hypocritical. They want the country to be better for the homeless (free or subsidized housing), the uneducated (higher minimum wage), the criminals (cashless bail)the drug addicted ( free needles), minorities (affirmative action), transgendered (access to women’s sports for XY). You are just left out if you happen to work hard and want to enjoy the fruits of your labors….
December 7th, 2023 at 6:11:35 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori means “it is sweet and fitting to die for one's country”. Horace.

so now I can believe something like 50% or our country is saying "I don't want to die for my country, let my country die for me"

well, so they can rebuild it into a socialist state

New Horace: dulce et decorum est pro patria mori pro te

or

Dulce et decorum est pro patria propter socialismum mori
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December 7th, 2023 at 7:08:27 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori means “it is sweet and fitting to die for one's country”. Horace.

so now I can believe something like 50% or our country is saying "I don't want to die for my country, let my country die for me"

well, so they can rebuild it into a socialist state

New Horace: dulce et decorum est pro patria mori pro te

or

Dulce et decorum est pro patria propter socialismum mori


Trump and MAGA did the most to damage the democratic system.
=pressing for votes in Georgia.
=Pressing Mike Pence to do something unconstitutional.
=we have a number of fake electors indicted in Nevada. Georgia and Arizona..
=Then we get to Jan 6, and regardless of what anyone thinks of Trump responsibility, it certainly wouldn't have happened if he hadn't kept insisting and still does that the election was stolen, which went WAY beyond, both the legitimate recounts and court cases which is the normal process.
=Oh, And the personal attacks on election workers helped damage some of their lives as well. I think officials with high profiles expect that kind of thing, but that's f***ing inexcusable for low level workers.
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December 7th, 2023 at 7:17:49 AM permalink
rxwine
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...and I actually think the proper process of calling for recounts, and court challenges is great, but Trump has even cast a pall over that process.
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December 8th, 2023 at 7:49:49 AM permalink
kenarman
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Interesting scenario from Robert Kennedy Jr. for the Dem power brokers to get who they want in the race.

“If he were going to drop out,” Kennedy said, referring to Biden, “the time to drop out would be during the convention because then he would control the delegates, because they’re all Biden delegates, and he would then be able to pick his successor.”
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin