Ukraine conflict

February 27th, 2022 at 8:31:45 AM permalink
Gandler
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When your country is in crisis


100%, the President can be a role model for many other crisis, just walking the streets of the capital while under siege. Most, would out of the country, or hiding in a secure compound.
Also, many politicians are fighting on the front line.


"Leadership of the President Biden has been really tremendous", Petro Poroshenko, former Ukrainian President.


I fully agree, my post was not meant to disparage Joe Biden (more so foreign politicians from other countries who flee at the first sign of trouble, and then are shocked that the Army basically gives up fighting instantly).

The Ukraine President has balls, he is just strolling the streets while the City is under siege with no direct security. And, he has refused the offer of many countries (including the U.S.) for a special evacuation. My guess is that is extremely inspiring for people on the ground, its inspiring for me, and I don't even have a connection to Ukraine (other than a general preference for Ukraine over Russia). People like leaders who lead from the front.
February 27th, 2022 at 8:32:31 AM permalink
rquiredusername
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I wouldn't be surprised if there were a number of Russian soldiers thinking why in the hell they are out there shooting at Ukrainians even if they're not saying it.

From the Ukrainian point of view, you have to either shoot attackers or be shot or taken over by them no matter how you feel about them. It's a fairly pragmatic choice. I've got nothing against wild animals like a bear. I don't even hunt them. But I'm gonna shoot at one if it tries to attack me and I have a gun.


Come on we know you wouldn’t have a gun. And second of all, if you’re not hunting, it’s called bear spray, it works.
February 27th, 2022 at 9:39:16 AM permalink
rxwine
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Come on we know you wouldn’t have a gun. And second of all, if you’re not hunting, it’s called bear spray, it works.


I forgot to mention these are bears with guns.

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February 27th, 2022 at 10:06:52 AM permalink
Evenbob
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You say it’s a yawner and then immediately go into how into following it you are.


Gee, I wonder who you are really. You join your two days ago and you obviously know everybody here. An Infamous well-known sock puppet got found out on another Forum last week and outed for it and you magically show up here. What a coincidence. And your very first post to me is confrontational. I'm about 90% sure who you are but we'll see. If you are who I think you are you won't last here either because you just can't help yourself but be you.
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February 27th, 2022 at 10:14:39 AM permalink
Tanko
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Putin puts Russia’s nuclear forces on high alert as tensions rise with West

It only takes thirty minutes for those missiles to reach their targets.

He is a very mentally ill and desperate person, who is capable of anything. People like him, only get worse over time, without professional help, or a bullet.
February 27th, 2022 at 10:20:39 AM permalink
rxwine
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Putin puts Russia’s nuclear forces on high alert as tensions rise with West

It only takes thirty minutes for those missiles to reach their targets.

He is a very mentally ill and desperate person, who is capable of anything. People like him, only get worse over time, without professional help, or a bullet.


I've been wondering if the speculation on his mental state has any merit. i'd prefer to think he's just made some bad calculations.
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February 27th, 2022 at 10:25:16 AM permalink
rxwine
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I've also been wondering about his possible use of smaller tactical nuclear weapons, though the only concentrated areas of Ukrainians are the cities and that still would be likely to be mostly civilians. I don't think the Ukrainian forces are in enough concentrated mass anywhere.
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February 27th, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM permalink
Gandler
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It's interesting that they are activating the nuclear program rights as they agree to talks.

My guess is the invasion is going not as planned (its actually going pretty terribly), so they are going to try to flex in some other way, and demand something in exchange for peace which would be unreasonable, and then they can say "see we attempted peace, but they would not give us this massive block of land that we demanded".... I would not put it past Russia at this point.
February 27th, 2022 at 10:34:48 AM permalink
Evenbob
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I've been wondering if the speculation on his mental state has any merit.


People who have known him personally for years are saying something's off, he's acting differently. Like his medications are screwing him up. I heard one professional say that because Putin is a textbook narcissist he could be screwed up on medications very easily becoming a Super Narcissist, narcissism on steroids so to speak.
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February 27th, 2022 at 10:40:18 AM permalink
rquiredusername
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You say it’s a yawner and then immediately go into how into following it you are.


Gee, I wonder who you are really. You join your two days ago and you obviously know everybody here. An Infamous well-known sock puppet got found out on another Forum last week and outed for it and you magically show up here. What a coincidence. And your very first post to me is confrontational. I'm about 90% sure who you are but we'll see. If you are who I think you are you won't last here either because you just can't help yourself but be you.


I’m not who you think I am considering whatever it is you’re referencing. Pointing out your self own isn’t confrontational.