Stop the Steal!

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November 22nd, 2020 at 1:10:16 PM permalink
kenarman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: rxwine
Are you sure they even want to talk politics? I have a good friend from my teenage years who has gone to the conservative side. I enjoy his company, but why would I want to hear him yak about trump? I have the whole internet for that.


I am sure they want to talk to me they are my friends. Even you will talk politics with me ;-)
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
November 22nd, 2020 at 1:39:24 PM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: terapined
Oh Oh come on
Unprecedented
Do you follow American history????.....
The hate Trump received from the left is equal to the hate Obama received from the right.
The hate for Clinton from the right for his whole 8 years.


I completely disagree with this but at the same time I think Trump deserved the most hate. I didn't disagree with most of his policies, but I do think he acted like a moron.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
November 22nd, 2020 at 1:40:46 PM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: Evenbob
All of this must be
investigated before votes are
certified.



Says who? You? I’m not even arguing with you over whether or not there was or was not fraud. The real world point is whoever certifies the vote in Wisconsin doesn’t give a shiy what you think. Barring evidence that is clear and compelling, nothing is going to happen other than Biden getting the electors in Michigan. In Pennsylvania. In Wisconsin. In Georgia. In Arizona. In Nevada. But you are free to babbleuntil December16.
November 22nd, 2020 at 2:09:20 PM permalink
Dalex64
Member since: Mar 8, 2014
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Quote: SOOPOO
Says who? You? I’m not even arguing with you over whether or not there was or was not fraud. The real world point is whoever certifies the vote in Wisconsin doesn’t give a shiy what you think. Barring evidence that is clear and compelling, nothing is going to happen other than Biden getting the electors in Michigan. In Pennsylvania. In Wisconsin. In Georgia. In Arizona. In Nevada. But you are free to babbleuntil December16.


This "indefinitely confined" issue was known about months before the election.

https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2020/10/a-quarter-million-wisconsin-voters-claim-to-be-indefinitely-confined/

The status completely self-certified. There is no real procedural mechanism for verification. The time to challenge applications with that status, or the law regarding it, was before the election.

Courts are loath to change election laws retroactively, and in most cases it is unconstitutional to do so.

In this case, the main legal block is that it was not challenged in court before the election. Another legal block is that at this point, the ballots have been separated from the voter-identifying information, so there is no way to differentiate between any of them, either in-person or absentee, and whether or not the absentee votes were applied for using "indefinitely confined" instead of picture id.

One more legal issue is, as far as I know, no one has gone to court to challenge on these grounds. It isn't up to the certification boards to decide whether or not there needs to be a fraud investigation. Their job is to verify that the votes cast were counted accurately, regardless of how fraudulently those votes may or may not have been cast.

Finally, there still haven't been any actual court cases alleging fraud, as far as I know.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
November 22nd, 2020 at 3:08:54 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: DRich
I completely disagree with this but at the same time I think Trump deserved the most hate. I didn't disagree with most of his policies, but I do think he acted like a moron.

How old were you during the Nixon years
No internet in the early 70's
I grew up in a pretty liberal middle class neighborhood
Some of the parents were livid with hatred for Nixon.
I'm 62 by the way
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
November 22nd, 2020 at 3:22:08 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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They’re starting to eat their own. Too funny!



“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
November 22nd, 2020 at 4:23:06 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: DRich
I completely disagree with this but at the same time I think Trump deserved the most hate. I didn't disagree with most of his policies, but I do think he acted like a moron.


If you mean Trump was discombobulating the Presidency far more often than any other president, I would agree there was nearly a perpetual rain of missteps, intentional aggravation, and outright buffoonery. There weren't a lot of days without some nonsense occurring.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
November 22nd, 2020 at 5:18:58 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/22/chris-christie-tells-trump-its-time-to-end-legal-fights-over-election.html

When Chris Christie is calling your legal action a "national embarrassment" (which is empirically true) , you may want to rethink your choices.


Quote:
“They allege fraud outside of the courtroom but when they go inside the courtroom they don’t plead fraud and they don’t argue fraud,” Christie said, adding “you have an obligation to present the evidence, the evidence has not been presented.”
November 22nd, 2020 at 7:11:12 PM permalink
reno
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Evenbob
Sydney Powell, the attorney, said
over the weekend that the evidence
she's uncovered about Dominion
will rock the world and is coming
at firehose speed.


A few days ago, Sydney Powell accused Republican Georgia Governor Kemp of accepting bribes to rig the election to elect Joe Biden. She's awesome! 😍 🥰

Quote: Evenbob
People who
have known her for decades say
her word is impeccable, she never
makes a public statement she
doesn't already have a mountain
of proof for.


Donald Trump fired Sydney Powell earlier today.😂😆😂
November 22nd, 2020 at 7:15:23 PM permalink
reno
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Shrek
Can't wait for the shhhhhh-tuff to hit the fan!!

TRUMP 2020!!
MAGA!!




Sydney Powell said she had mountains of proof that Biden rigged millions of votes to steal the election.

When will we see the evidence? NEVER! Because Donald Trump fired Sydney Powell today!😂😂