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| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023
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Posts: 2831 | Quote: terapined Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: terapined I also have this issued to me in 1964 when I went overseas to visit relatives as a young child with my mother I was under the impression that when I presented this document issued by the Department of Justice, no question I'm an American citizen. It also has my picture as a child They looked at this document also and they said they never saw one of this either and had to research it WTF Voting was only a month awayeal Thats when I insisted on a supervisor I was absolutely blown away this document wasn't good enough upon presentation 
If I may, this Certificate is not on the FLA list of voter id documents. That being said, maybe it's time for you to upgrade your DL to a Real ID version, and get yourself a new unepired Passport and Passport card? May make life easier for you, if these kinds of questions are going to keep coming up. May cost you a few hundred dollars, and that may mean one less Dead show at the Sphere if money is tight, but-from personal experience-well worth the payoff in much less aggravation in trying to participate in public life. At least, the distrust racists who are spooked whenever someone who doesn't look or act or think like them tries to do something civic related will get off your back.
I think this was issued due to the cold war. This is just a year after the Cuban missile crisis and issued by the Justice dept. I'm fine. I got white star on gold background top right of driver's lisc signifying my driver's lisc is "Real ID".
Believe it or not, upon sufficient application and a paid fee of $,385, anyone born abroad to U.S. citizens whose parents did not get a Consular Report of Birth Abroad before turning 18 or automatically became a U.S. citizen after birth but before you turned 18. Also believe it or not, and this came as a surprise to me, that legal immigrants are also entitled to a Real ID. Please do consider getting a passport and a passport card. It is the best way to keep the "Show me ze papers, please" voter id racists at bay. |
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| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 21195 | Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: terapined Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: terapined I also have this issued to me in 1964 when I went overseas to visit relatives as a young child with my mother I was under the impression that when I presented this document issued by the Department of Justice, no question I'm an American citizen. It also has my picture as a child They looked at this document also and they said they never saw one of this either and had to research it WTF Voting was only a month awayeal Thats when I insisted on a supervisor I was absolutely blown away this document wasn't good enough upon presentation
If I may, this Certificate is not on the FLA list of voter id documents. That being said, maybe it's time for you to upgrade your DL to a Real ID version, and get yourself a new unepired Passport and Passport card? May make life easier for you, if these kinds of questions are going to keep coming up. May cost you a few hundred dollars, and that may mean one less Dead show at the Sphere if money is tight, but-from personal experience-well worth the payoff in much less aggravation in trying to participate in public life. At least, the distrust racists who are spooked whenever someone who doesn't look or act or think like them tries to do something civic related will get off your back.
I think this was issued due to the cold war. This is just a year after the Cuban missile crisis and issued by the Justice dept. I'm fine. I got white star on gold background top right of driver's lisc signifying my driver's lisc is "Real ID".
Believe it or not, upon sufficient application and a paid fee of $,385, anyone born abroad to U.S. citizens whose parents did not get a Consular Report of Birth Abroad before turning 18 or automatically became a U.S. citizen after birth but before you turned 18. Also believe it or not, and this came as a surprise to me, that legal immigrants are also entitled to a Real ID. Please do consider getting a passport and a passport card. It is the best way to keep the "Show me ze papers, please" voter id racists at bay.
So voter ID is racist in your world? War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength |
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| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023
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Posts: 2831 | Quote: AZDuffman Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: terapined Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: terapined I also have this issued to me in 1964 when I went overseas to visit relatives as a young child with my mother I was under the impression that when I presented this document issued by the Department of Justice, no question I'm an American citizen. It also has my picture as a child They looked at this document also and they said they never saw one of this either and had to research it WTF Voting was only a month awayeal Thats when I insisted on a supervisor I was absolutely blown away this document wasn't good enough upon presentation
If I may, this Certificate is not on the FLA list of voter id documents. That being said, maybe it's time for you to upgrade your DL to a Real ID version, and get yourself a new unepired Passport and Passport card? May make life easier for you, if these kinds of questions are going to keep coming up. May cost you a few hundred dollars, and that may mean one less Dead show at the Sphere if money is tight, but-from personal experience-well worth the payoff in much less aggravation in trying to participate in public life. At least, the distrust racists who are spooked whenever someone who doesn't look or act or think like them tries to do something civic related will get off your back.
I think this was issued due to the cold war. This is just a year after the Cuban missile crisis and issued by the Justice dept. I'm fine. I got white star on gold background top right of driver's lisc signifying my driver's lisc is "Real ID".
Believe it or not, upon sufficient application and a paid fee of $1,385, anyone born abroad to U.S. citizens whose parents did not get a Consular Report of Birth Abroad before turning 18 or automatically became a U.S. citizen after birth but before you turned 18. Also believe it or not, and this came as a surprise to me, that legal immigrants are also entitled to a Real ID. Please do consider getting a passport and a passport card. It is the best way to keep the "Show me ze papers, please" voter id racists at bay.
So voter ID is racist in your world?
Yes. It is my belief that voter id laws are racist and discriminatory in both their intent and effect. You will waste valuable oxygen, ATP, electricity and photons trying to convince me otherwise. You'd have better success trying to convince me aliens visited Earth at least once during human history. |
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| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Posts: 12501 | Quote: GenoDRPh Quote: terapined I also have this issued to me in 1964 when I went overseas to visit relatives as a young child with my mother I was under the impression that when I presented this document issued by the Department of Justice, no question I'm an American citizen. It also has my picture as a child They looked at this document also and they said they never saw one of this either and had to research it WTF Voting was only a month away Thats when I insisted on a supervisor I was absolutely blown away this document wasn't good enough upon presentation
If I may, this Certificate is not on the FLA list of voter id documents.
I've been researching this Certificate and it's actually common for kids born outside the US to an American citizen. I see it is on the list.  N-560 Here is a blowup of the cert bottom left corner  Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
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| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 21195 | Quote: GenoDRPh
Yes. It is my belief that voter id laws are racist and discriminatory in both their intent and effect. You will waste valuable oxygen, ATP, electricity and photons trying to convince me otherwise. You'd have better success trying to convince me aliens visited Earth at least once during human history.
Why? You give no good reason why. You give no reason at all why. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength |
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| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023
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Posts: 2831 | Quote: AZDuffman Why? You give no good reason why. You give no reason at all why.
And I don't have to...at least to you. |
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| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 21195 | Quote: GenoDRPh And I don't have to...at least to you.
Probably because you cannot make an intellectual case for it. My guess is you do not know why but you hear other left wingers say it thus it must be so. I have heard their arguments as to why but in claiming racism over it they use racist arguments if their own. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength |
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| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023
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Posts: 2831 | Quote: AZDuffman Probably because you cannot make an intellectual case for it. My guess is you do not know why but you hear other left wingers say it thus it must be so. I have heard their arguments as to why but in claiming racism over it they use racist arguments if their own.
Let's say my belief is more grounded in facts than any health claim made by RFK Jr, or any thing Donny has ever said. |
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| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 21195 | Quote: GenoDRPh Let's say my belief is more grounded in facts than any health claim made by RFK Jr, or any thing Donny has ever said.
What facts? War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength |
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| odiousgambit Member since: Oct 28, 2012
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Posts: 6376 | It's OK, AZ. It's just that he has been deceived The Lefties here are mostly not bad people, but have all been deceived by the Evil One Soon we may have our first Rastafarian President I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me] |
