The Election Fraud Thread

November 1st, 2024 at 9:30:46 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Since I voted over a week ago, I haven't needed an ID since. Who knows when I'll need it again.

I have to renew my registration on the car. in November. Don't need it. Won't need it for the rest of the year and beyond most likely.

And I'll be doing thousands of things in the next months where I won't need it.


Just made a doctor appt. They said I need it.
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November 1st, 2024 at 9:32:53 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Do you make your renters show their ID while they are living there? 'Cause I doubt if you do. Just to move in, right. Why would you ask them for it again in the next 10 years as long as they pay up and cause no trouble.


They need it to move in. Most renters move within 2 years do they will need it again. And they will need it if they change jobs.

Dozens of thing you need an ID for which is why adults will always have one unless they are living totally off the grid.
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November 1st, 2024 at 10:06:57 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
Just made a doctor appt. They said I need it.


If you want to stop complaining, make it free like I described. Few people would be filing cases on civil liberties because the judge would be saying thiings like "so, you never had a day in the last year to go get your free ID? Case dismissed!!!"
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November 1st, 2024 at 10:11:18 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: SOOPOO
Construction fee the list of stupid things our tax dollars are spent on, providing a free voter ID is (should be) easy.


SOOPOO MAKES THE BEST POINT EVER ON THIS.
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November 1st, 2024 at 11:25:55 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
If you want to stop complaining, make it free like I described. Few people would be filing cases on civil liberties because the judge would be saying thiings like "so, you never had a day in the last year to go get your free ID? Case dismissed!!!"



No need to make it free as people already have state issued ID. What part of that can you not grasp?
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November 1st, 2024 at 11:40:23 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: terapined
I also have this issued to me in 1964 when I went overseas to visit relatives as a young child with my mother
I was under the impression that when I presented this document issued by the Department of Justice, no question I'm an American citizen. It also has my picture as a child
They looked at this document also and they said they never saw one of this either and had to research it
WTF
Voting was only a month away
Thats when I insisted on a supervisor
I was absolutely blown away this document wasn't good enough upon presentation


If I may, this Certificate is not on the FLA list of voter id documents. That being said, maybe it's time for you to upgrade your DL to a Real ID version, and get yourself a new unepired Passport and Passport card? May make life easier for you, if these kinds of questions are going to keep coming up. May cost you a few hundred dollars, and that may mean one less Dead show at the Sphere if money is tight, but-from personal experience-well worth the payoff in much less aggravation in trying to participate in public life. At least, the distrust racists who are spooked whenever someone who doesn't look or act or think like them tries to do something civic related will get off your back.
November 1st, 2024 at 11:58:18 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: GenoDRPh
Quote: terapined
I also have this issued to me in 1964 when I went overseas to visit relatives as a young child with my mother
I was under the impression that when I presented this document issued by the Department of Justice, no question I'm an American citizen. It also has my picture as a child
They looked at this document also and they said they never saw one of this either and had to research it
WTF
Voting was only a month away
Thats when I insisted on a supervisor
I was absolutely blown away this document wasn't good enough upon presentation


If I may, this Certificate is not on the FLA list of voter id documents. That being said, maybe it's time for you to upgrade your DL to a Real ID version, and get yourself a new unepired Passport and Passport card? May make life easier for you, if these kinds of questions are going to keep coming up. May cost you a few hundred dollars, and that may mean one less Dead show at the Sphere if money is tight, but-from personal experience-well worth the payoff in much less aggravation in trying to participate in public life. At least, the distrust racists who are spooked whenever someone who doesn't look or act or think like them tries to do something civic related will get off your back.


So much hate talk I. That last sentence. No need for it.

Reality is though it is good to have a passport no matter what. Best form of ID. And you typically keep it under lock and key so if you lose your DL you have something.
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November 1st, 2024 at 12:34:58 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
No need to make it free as people already have state issued ID. What part of that can you not grasp?


Good just carry that paper and get rid of convenient cards. What part of that can you not grasp?
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November 1st, 2024 at 12:52:50 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Good just carry that paper and get rid of convenient cards. What part of that can you not grasp?


Convenient cards? What on earth are you talking about?
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November 1st, 2024 at 1:59:32 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: GenoDRPh
Quote: terapined
I also have this issued to me in 1964 when I went overseas to visit relatives as a young child with my mother
I was under the impression that when I presented this document issued by the Department of Justice, no question I'm an American citizen. It also has my picture as a child
They looked at this document also and they said they never saw one of this either and had to research it
WTF
Voting was only a month away
Thats when I insisted on a supervisor
I was absolutely blown away this document wasn't good enough upon presentation


If I may, this Certificate is not on the FLA list of voter id documents. That being said, maybe it's time for you to upgrade your DL to a Real ID version, and get yourself a new unepired Passport and Passport card? May make life easier for you, if these kinds of questions are going to keep coming up. May cost you a few hundred dollars, and that may mean one less Dead show at the Sphere if money is tight, but-from personal experience-well worth the payoff in much less aggravation in trying to participate in public life. At least, the distrust racists who are spooked whenever someone who doesn't look or act or think like them tries to do something civic related will get off your back.

I think this was issued due to the cold war. This is just a year after the Cuban missile crisis and issued by the Justice dept.
I'm fine. I got white star on gold background top right of driver's lisc signifying my driver's lisc is "Real ID".
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