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December 22nd, 2021 at 2:52:16 AM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
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Quote: AZDuffman
Strange. I thought Biden said if you just listened to the medical professionals this would all be over in no time. Almost a year later and it still gets worse. Is he not listening to the doctors?
Are you?
December 22nd, 2021 at 2:58:30 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: OnceDear
Are you?


I am not the one or party who ran my mouth that Trump was not taking it seriously, or not listening to professionals. Biden was that one and party. Guess what, all his side did was used the virus to make political points. In reality, they loved the more dead people they were. Probably had some political class quant telling them how many more votes for every 10,000 more dead.

I listen to them, then I weigh the advice I have listened to. I take Vitamin C and Zinc as they seem to have some effect. I do not wear a mask as wearing a dirty mask does nothing. I have not taken a vax that I keep hearing people are still getting infected after taking.

I would have some hydroxychloroquine on hand if it were available OTC.

I do not listen to Big Pharma.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
December 22nd, 2021 at 9:05:11 AM permalink
missedhervee
Member since: Apr 23, 2021
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You birds just don't seem to understand what it was Biden wanted and wants: he wants to quell and eventually stop the spread of covid.

To do so, he believes, and the science backs him on this, that the simplest, surest way to accomplish this laudable aim is for all people to be vaccinated.

It isn't politics so much as it is science / health.

In opposing vaccination anti-vaxxers hope to achieve a political goal: very stupid thinking on their part as they risk their health and that of their families for a specious goal.

Just more evidence of the fracturing of the American fairy tale.
December 22nd, 2021 at 10:07:00 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: missedhervee
You birds just don't seem to understand what it was Biden wanted and wants: he wants to quell and eventually stop the spread of covid.

To do so, he believes, and the science backs him on this, that the simplest, surest way to accomplish this laudable aim is for all people to be vaccinated.

It isn't politics so much as it is science / health.

In opposing vaccination anti-vaxxers hope to achieve a political goal: very stupid thinking on their part as they risk their health and that of their families for a specious goal.

Just more evidence of the fracturing of the American fairy tale.


Politics has nothing do do with my decision.

Biden is the king of making the virus political.

I thought you wanted "As little government intrusion as possible?"
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
December 22nd, 2021 at 10:14:04 AM permalink
missedhervee
Member since: Apr 23, 2021
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Quote: AZDuffman
I thought you wanted "As little government intrusion as possible?"


That is my preference, but in this case it is about science, not government.

Vaccines were mandated before without this type of resistance: yes, resistance is political.
December 22nd, 2021 at 10:25:18 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: missedhervee
That is my preference, but in this case it is about science, not government.

Vaccines were mandated before without this type of resistance: yes, resistance is political.


Oh, I get it! If it is a Democrat intruding you think it is fine and dandy!
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
December 22nd, 2021 at 10:29:11 AM permalink
missedhervee
Member since: Apr 23, 2021
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Quote: AZDuffman
Oh, I get it! If it is a Democrat intruding you think it is fine and dandy!


All you "get" for that is a booby prize.

I was pro-vaccine when Trump was in office, and remain so.

See, for me it is not political.

I do not see it as an intrusion, I see it as a necessary action / precaution based on science and needed to quell a pandemic.

I see little or no real risk of harm in the vaccines, especially when compared to the risks when contracting covid while unvaccinated.

Also I'd rather not have my tax dollars pay for your medical care in hospital for covid when vaccination would likely have prevented / minimized it;
December 22nd, 2021 at 10:48:13 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: missedhervee
All you "get" for that is a booby prize.

I was pro-vaccine when Trump was in office, and remain so.

See, for me it is not political.

I do not see it as an intrusion, I see it as a necessary action / precaution based on science and needed to quell a pandemic.

I see little or no real risk of harm in the vaccines, especially when compared to the risks when contracting covid while unvaccinated.

Also I'd rather not have my tax dollars pay for your medical care in hospital for covid when vaccination would likely have prevented / minimized it;


So you are for government intrusion "for the common good?"
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
December 22nd, 2021 at 10:48:38 AM permalink
kenarman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: missedhervee
All you "get" for that is a booby prize.

I was pro-vaccine when Trump was in office, and remain so.

See, for me it is not political.

I do not see it as an intrusion, I see it as a necessary action / precaution based on science and needed to quell a pandemic.

I see little or no real risk of harm in the vaccines, especially when compared to the risks when contracting covid while unvaccinated.

Also I'd rather not have my tax dollars pay for your medical care in hospital for covid when vaccination would likely have prevented / minimized it;


From province of Quebec, Canada on Monday: 5000 new cases of Omicron, 3000 of them among double vaccinated people. Vaccination protection is relatively short term. Is it worth it, probably but it is not the magic bullet to end the pandemic that you make it out to be. BC has just reinstated a bunch of lock down rules. Slightly more than 90% of adults are double vaccinated in BC. As I have said many time Covid is going to do its thing and there is nothing we can do to stop it. We can slow it down with our rules but that only delays not eliminates the run of the virus through the human race. If you actually want to end the pandemic inoculate everyone with the virus, those that survive are good to go.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
December 22nd, 2021 at 11:26:28 AM permalink
missedhervee
Member since: Apr 23, 2021
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Quote: AZDuffman
So you are for government intrusion "for the common good?"


People should voluntarily act "for the common good" when it comes to this pandemic.

That government intrusion is required only solidifies political opposition.