The Coronavirus thread

Quote: rxwine

Those freely choosing to remain unvaxxed should be taken to hospitals and physicians who believe that is the right choice and treated there if they get sick.

That sounds fair to me.

Sounds like North Korea to me.

WND article. Columbia University analysis says true US Covid vaccine death count is 400,000.

Twenty times higher than CDC VAERS site shows.

OpenVAERS Project

"Notably, adult vaccination increased ulterior mortality of unvaccinated young (<18, US; <15, Europe). Comparing our estimate with the CDC-reported VFR (0.002%) suggests VAERS deaths are underreported by a factor of 20,"

"Comparing our age-stratified VFRs with published age-stratified coronavirus infection fatality rates (IFR) suggests the risks of COVID vaccines and boosters outweigh the benefits in children, young adults and older adults with low occupational risk or previous coronavirus exposure."

Quote: AZDuffman

Sounds like North Korea to me.

Nah, it's conservative orthodoxy. For instance, conservatives supporting news sources which preach what they want to hear. So why shouldn't you go to anti-vax doctors and medical facilities and leave the ones that practice responsible medicine to everyone else.

Quote: rxwine

Nah, it's conservative orthodoxy. For instance, conservatives supporting news sources which preach what they want to hear. So why shouldn't you go to anti-vax doctors and medical facilities and leave the ones that practice responsible medicine to everyone else.

Because listening to one news channel or another has zero to do with picking medical care.

Quote: Tanko

WND article. Columbia University analysis says true US Covid vaccine death count is 400,000.

Twenty times higher than CDC VAERS site shows.

OpenVAERS Project

"Notably, adult vaccination increased ulterior mortality of unvaccinated young (<18, US; <15, Europe). Comparing our estimate with the CDC-reported VFR (0.002%) suggests VAERS deaths are underreported by a factor of 20,"

"Comparing our age-stratified VFRs with published age-stratified coronavirus infection fatality rates (IFR) suggests the risks of COVID vaccines and boosters outweigh the benefits in children, young adults and older adults with low occupational risk or previous coronavirus exposure."

Absurd
Ignoring the major evidence
Total deaths up about a million a year
If anything, covid deaths under reported

Quote: AZDuffman

Because listening to one news channel or another has zero to do with picking medical care.

You think healthcare is not a right. So, it must be like any other business and see who it wants.

Quote: rxwine

You think healthcare is not a right. So, it must be like any other business and see who it wants.

It is like any business. If they perform the service I want and I pay for it there are no restrictions on m getting it.

Quote: terapined

Quote: Tanko

WND article. Columbia University analysis says true US Covid vaccine death count is 400,000.

Twenty times higher than CDC VAERS site shows.

OpenVAERS Project

"Notably, adult vaccination increased ulterior mortality of unvaccinated young (<18, US; <15, Europe). Comparing our estimate with the CDC-reported VFR (0.002%) suggests VAERS deaths are underreported by a factor of 20,"

"Comparing our age-stratified VFRs with published age-stratified coronavirus infection fatality rates (IFR) suggests the risks of COVID vaccines and boosters outweigh the benefits in children, young adults and older adults with low occupational risk or previous coronavirus exposure."

Absurd
Ignoring the major evidence
Total deaths up about a million a year
If anything, covid deaths under reported

US Excess deaths, above previous year average rates, were about 400,000 this year and 400,000 last year. That closely correlates to quoted 800,000* reported Covid deaths. That WND** report seems to be insisting that about half the excess deaths were as a direct result of the vaccine. What a crock!

* I accept that the 800,000 includes some who died WITH covid and not OF covid. It also excludes a similar number who died BECAUSE OF covid but had not had a covid test. It's a best estimate. I reckon those miscounts cancel out and that the final tally IS NOT an over-statement.

**WND article = Complete BS from a right wing BS Clickbait source.

Quote: AZDuffman

Because listening to one news channel or another has zero to do with picking medical care.

Because listening to one political cult or another has zero to do with picking medical treatment.

"When's the meeting about the quadrupled fatality rate among mRNA-injected Veterans?" From Jim in Minn

The Harvard study in the New England Journal of Medicine.

VA data.

Over 700,000 subjects.

Quadrupled death rate.

Data Appendix Figure S3 page 11: https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2115463/suppl_file/nejmoa2115463_appendix.pdf