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December 28th, 2019 at 10:33:26 AM permalink
Wizard
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Happy day 3 of Kwanzaa. On this third day, we focus on Ujima (Collective Work and Responsibility) -- "To build and maintain our community together and make our brothers' and sisters' problems our problems and to solve them together."

This whole thing is beginning to smell of Communism.
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December 28th, 2019 at 11:10:50 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Wizard
This whole thing is beginning to smell.


It's always stunk, from the minute
it was invented.
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December 28th, 2019 at 11:41:12 AM permalink
fleaswatter
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Quote: Wizard
Happy day 3 of Kwanzaa. On this third day, we focus on Ujima (Collective Work and Responsibility) -- "To build and maintain our community together and make our brothers' and sisters' problems our problems and to solve them together."

This whole thing is beginning to smell of Communism.


Ann Coulter's view about Kwanzaa:

KWANZAA: THE HOLIDAY BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE FBI

I quote part:
Quote:
It is a fact that Kwanzaa was invented in 1966 by a black radical FBI stooge, Ron Karenga -- aka Dr. Maulana Karenga -- founder of United Slaves, a violent nationalist rival to the Black Panthers. He was also a dupe of the FBI.

Karenga's invented holiday is a nutty blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black racism and Marxism. The seven principles of Kwanzaa are the very same seven principles of the Symbionese Liberation Army, another innovation of the Worst Generation.

In 1974, Patricia Hearst, kidnap victim-cum-SLA revolutionary, posed next to the banner of her alleged captors, a seven-headed cobra. Each snake head stood for one of the SLA's revolutionary principles: Umoja, Kujichagulia, Ujima, Ujamaa, Nia, Kuumba and Imani -- the exact same seven "principles" of Kwanzaa.

Kwanzaa praises collectivism in every possible area of life -- economics, work, personality, even litter removal. ("Kuumba: Everyone should strive to improve the community and make it more beautiful.") It takes a village to raise a police snitch.



Kwanzza in Wikipedia
December 28th, 2019 at 12:20:49 PM permalink
Evenbob
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"(Purpose): To make our collective vocation the building and developing of our community in order to restore our people to their traditional greatness."

When was that, exactly. Blacks came
here as slaves, bought by slave
traders from OTHER Blacks. No
traditional greatness there. Then
they were freed after the CW and
lived mostly in Ghetto's with other
Blacks. No traditional greatness
there.

Seems like that is yet to come, why
pretend it was ever there. You have
to strive for greatness, you don't
stumble on it accidentally.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 28th, 2019 at 12:29:24 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Wizard
Happy day 3 of Kwanzaa. On this third day, we focus on Ujima (Collective Work and Responsibility) -- "To build and maintain our community together and make our brothers' and sisters' problems our problems and to solve them together."

This whole thing is beginning to smell of Communism.


Lite at best, and that's a stretch.

And you don't go to Hell for not believing it.
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December 28th, 2019 at 2:46:12 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: fleaswatter
Ann Coulter's view about Kwanzaa:...


It seems the seven principles of the Symbionese Liberation Army were copied from those of Kawanzaa. You can't fault Kwanzaa for that.

Kwanzza in Wikipedia
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December 28th, 2019 at 9:15:37 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: Evenbob
It's always stunk, from the minute it was invented.


Invented is a rather neutral term, I would think "concocted" would be more descriptive of the motives involved.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:36:04 AM permalink
Wizard
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On day 4 of Kwanzaa we focus on the principle of Ujamaa (Cooperative economics) -- To build and maintain our own stores, shops, and other businesses and to profit from them together.

To that I say, what is the difference between a store and a shop?
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December 29th, 2019 at 6:00:17 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Wizard
On day 4 of Kwanzaa we focus on the principle of Ujamaa (Cooperative economics) -- To build and maintain our own stores, shops, and other businesses and to profit from them together.

To that I say, what is the difference between a store and a shop?


A "shop" would be smaller and more independent than a "store." At least how I see it.

I was not aware that in primitive Africa they had stores and shops owned by locals to patronize so much so that it became part of some harvest celebration.
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December 29th, 2019 at 6:37:31 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: AZDuffman

I was not aware that in primitive Africa they had stores and shops owned by locals to patronize so much so that it became part of some harvest celebration.

Query as to what time period you are referring to. Around the First Millenium the principal trading center was Timbuktu which of course was WEST Africa.
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